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ROFL.... 584,000 Soldiers served in a war 15 years ago and now 11,000 or 1.8% of them are dead.
Umm, sorry but that doesn't sound anywhere close to being a problem to me.
That just looks like normal Mortality rate.
Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed
by Bob Nichols
Project Censored Award Winner
SF Bay View"Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter charged Monday that the reason Veterans Affairs Secretary Anthony Principi stepped down earlier this month was the growing scandal surrounding the use of uranium munitions in the Iraq War.
Writing in Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter No. 169, Arthur N. Bernklau, executive director of Veterans for Cons utional Law in New York, stated, “The real reason for Mr. Principi’s departure was really never given, however a special report published by eminent scientist Leuren Moret naming depleted uranium as the definitive cause of the ‘Gulf War Syndrome’ has fed a growing scandal about the continued use of uranium munitions by the US Military.”"
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"He added, “Out of the 580,400 soldiers who served in GW1 (the first Gulf War), of them, 11,000 are now dead! By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability. This astounding number of ‘Disabled Vets’ means that a decade later, 56% of those soldiers who served have some form of permanent medical problems!”"
How was the truth about Depleted Uranium hidden from military personnel serving in successive wars? Before his tragic death, Sen. Paul Wellstone informed Joyce Riley, R.N., B.S.N., executive director of the American Gulf War Veterans Association, that 95 percent of Gulf War veterans had been recycled out of the military by 1995. Any of those continuing in military service were isolated from each other, preventing critical information being transferred to new troops. The "next Depleted Uranium war" had already been planned, and those planning it wanted "no skunk at the garden party."
ROFL.... 584,000 Soldiers served in a war 15 years ago and now 11,000 or 1.8% of them are dead.
Umm, sorry but that doesn't sound anywhere close to being a problem to me.
That just looks like normal Mortality rate.
DAN, you're the worlds biggest idiot.. will you ever get tired of people calling you that???
You forgot something.By the year 2000, there were 325,000 on Permanent Medical Disability.
i find that hard to believe. especially the bull part of, "95 percent of Gulf War veterans had been recycled out of the military by 1995. Any of those continuing in military service were isolated from each other, preventing critical information being transferred to new troops."
sounds some ing dumb science fiction movie...
So, of course that makes it so. At least Dan cites some web source, not the ADRS.i find that hard to believe.
There has been quite a bit of contreversy surrounding depleted uranium recently. I don't know the specifics, but I'm now interested enough to look into it.
However, it was my understanding that GWS wasn't even known to be an actual condition?
most sources dan cites are bull ...and you know that... just because something is on the internet doesn't mean it is true...
i think they finally said there is a GWS a few years ago, but they haven't found one single factor that causes... i think one of the main reasons is saddams wmds being blown up and being carried by the winds...
who knows... many were affected by the war..but also many weren't.
i find the "remaing service members were separated" claim to be bull though....
Oh-My, I am now shaking in my boots. Manny is going to look into it.
I am also just waiting on his decision if it is true.
I think that boot shaking is due to your parkinson's disease there buddy.Oh-My, I am now shaking in my boots. Manny is going to look into it.
I am also just waiting on his decision if it is true.
"I am also just waiting on his decision if it is true"
Heh, translation?
But, the point stands that before I say anything about it I like to be informed. Too bad that isn't a standard.
So, what are YOUR sources, Klandestino, other than "I don't think so."? Bring your game and debunk his stand, or STFU. Half of your conservative brethren cite ing blogs here like they're the bible.
were you ever in the ing military? i doubt it... because many of the jobs are smaller than you think and many people know each other... so, soo, sooo many times when i met someone new, we had many mutual friends... it is highly unlikely that the military could separate everyone... that is pure sci-fi...
Yes, I was, for 14 years. Dan didn't say they separated everyone, the late Senator Wellstone said that they turned over 95% of Gulf War Veterans, people who actually went there, or did you even look hard enough to see that?
Just to keep things fair, The Onion is one of the more credible web sources Dan has quoted.
Yes, but Dan, at least, isn't all about "I think" or "I don't think" like some...
Actually, I have this post-conceived notion that Dan is mostly about misinformation, which I find far more detestable than the canned at udes you detest.
When called upon to speak freely, Dan's mind shrinks like a George Costanza penis dipped in the January coastal waters of Kennebunkport.
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@ shrinkage. nice.
When called upon to speak freely, Dan's mind shrinks like a George Costanza penis dipped in the January coastal waters of Kennebunkport.
Well, at least GON gave us a unique opinion for once. OK, so technically, he still plagerized the out of Seinfeld, but for him it's a start.
Last edited by Nbadan; 03-01-2005 at 05:50 AM.
The Onion post (which was clearly a joke) really got to ya, huh GON. Expect more.
no, i read that... and i know what a gulf war vet means you dumbass... but i still find it HIGHLY unlikely that the military could do this easily. besides, they can't keep former members of units from calling each other.
my best friends now are former army buddies and we alll live in different states. we still find time to make phone calls, send e-mails, etc... a little separation doesn't stop people from talking. also, if any of us had some sort of syndrome, we'd be damn sure to be calling the other members of our previous units and seeing if they were afflicted to..
it is suprising you would even attempt to stand up for dan's bull sources... you must be one of those that believes everything you read on the internet...
Depleted Uranium is safe enough to eat. There are many other factors to consider when talking about disabilities in war vets. The stats that were given do not differentiate between mental dissabilities and physical ones. I would like a clarification on that.
It's not like the use of DU in live rounds was all that common, so I don't see how it could have had that wide spread of an effect. As far as I know (from my limited experience), the only weapons that use DU are in the munitions that are fired from the A-10 and possibly in some of the tank rounds.
Ehhh, I think you're wrong there. It's my understanding that any Armor penetrating weapons are now DU. They used to use Tungsten but DU is cheaper and better from my understanding. I could be wrong.
DU is probably safe to handle, but the moment it gets in your body it's pretty bad. This comes in the form of dust and residue left over after a s explodes or shrapnel from s s coming into the body.
The US military has admitted that it didn't train the troop property on post DU use safe guards.
I don't think DU has caused GWS (the pollution from the oil fires still would rank much higher on my list) but I think it's anything but safe enough to eat.
I can see why they use it, but they need to protect the troops with some better training.
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