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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    Got to say I've never seen that before.

    Although it seemed pretty clear that the ball was short and it should have only been a two.

    Raise your hands if you flashed back to Tim tipping the ball in in the T-Mac game . . .

    *raises hand*

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    What happened with the goal tend, I heard about it in the chatroom, but what actually happened...

    who goaltended?

    Whoever did, IDK how the you are that re ed to goaltend a 3 point shot.

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    Uh, it was Duncan . . .

    And like I said, the ball was short and I think under the rim. Tim reached up and tipped it into the hoop. Shoulda been just a two.

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    That ball was unquestionably going to miss and there was maybe a small chance it would have grazed the rim, at best.

    Weak sequence.

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    The ball was clearly short and Tim's hand was below the rim. How this is goaltending I do not know - but it was a tip in!

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    Yeah, but that is the rule, you can not touch a 3 pointer and tip it in for 2 pts. It always counts as 3. It happened to Sheed this year against somebody, same thing, it would have hit the front of the rim and he tipped it in....3 points.

    This rule to to keep you from turning 3s into 2s.

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    It couldn't have been a goal-tend, since it was below the rim. Can anybody find the rule book on tip-ins by the defense?

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    Not goaltending, just bad judgement. With no Cavs in the area, you let that one go out of bounds. Man, McInnis was shooting like crap near the end. Two airballs, and a toe on the line 2 pointer.

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    Wow.. Nostradamus predicted my post...

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    Jim, I agree that's the call if you rule it a goaltend.

    My point it that it should not have been ruled a goaltend, just a missed shot tipped into the basket.

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    It is the rule, it could have hit the rim and bounced up and gone in...if the ball is going downward and is in the cylinder(hits the rim) is is GT.

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    It couldn't have been a goal-tend, since it was below the rim. Can anybody find the rule book on tip-ins by the defense?

    Did you ever doubt me, Crazy?

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    im just glad duncan made up for it by sinking his last second clutch jumper!

    it was a tip in though.. and i think it would really count as a three. no matter what

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    It is the rule, it could have hit the rim and bounced up and gone in...if the ball is going downward and is in the cylinder(hits the rim) is is GT.
    I just checked the recording. The call was wrong for two reasons:
    1. That ball wasn't going to hit the rim
    2. TD hand was never above the rim

    both of those reasons prevent the ball to be in the cylinder thus no goaltend.

    But I can also see how the refs made the wrong call without seeing the replay. WTH it's probably less embarassing than a tip in for the wrong team :p

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    I just checked the recording. The call was wrong for two reasons:
    1. That ball wasn't going to hit the rim
    2. TD hand was never above the rim

    both of those reasons prevent the ball to be in the cylinder thus no goaltend.

    But I can also see how the refs made the wrong call without seeing the replay. WTH it's probably less embarassing than a tip in for the wrong team :p
    Unless you were next to rim, you could not tell if TD touched it before the rim.

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    Unless you were next to rim, you could not tell if TD touched it before the rim.
    There is a camera angle that shows it pretty good, but as I said it's not obvious and it was an honest call.

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    The ball could have been 10 feet short, it would still have been counted as a three-pointer, because no cavalier touched the ball.

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    The ball could have been 10 feet short, it would still have been counted as a three-pointer, because no cavalier touched the ball.

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    What I mean is, after MicInnis shot the ball, any spur is treated as an inanimate object until the ball hits the floor, the rim, a member of the same team, or the other team takes posession.....the ball deflecting off of Duncan's hands doesn't count as any of the above.

    So basically, tim tipping the ball in is just like the ball hitting the backboard and going in. It counts as a three-pointer.

    If a cavalier would have touched the ball at any point after the shot, and then tim deflected it in, it would have been only a two-pointer

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    OK, I get it now.

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    What I mean is, after MicInnis shot the ball, any spur is treated as an inanimate object until the ball hits the floor, the rim, a member of the same team, or the other team takes posession.....the ball deflecting off of Duncan's hands doesn't count as any of the above.

    So basically, tim tipping the ball in is just like the ball hitting the backboard and going in. It counts as a three-pointer.

    If a cavalier would have touched the ball at any point after the shot, and then tim deflected it in, it would have been only a two-pointer

    That is what they said when Sheed tipped one in earlier this year.

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    That's not right... the rule is it gets credited to the CLOSEST Cavalier.

    THAT is the rule.

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    That's not right... the rule is it gets credited to the CLOSEST Cavalier.

    THAT is the rule.
    Not on a goal tend..it is credited to the shooter.

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    Jim, they are saying that it is NOT a goal tend -- but just a tip-in.

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