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    Or why Finley or Hill can't? They were shooting well in the beginning of the season.
    I said that because I don't know why Manu or TP have to take a big number of shots even when they suck.This year we have more talent in the backcourt.

    Parker was 15/42 Fg last 3 games.35%.I don't know why he is taking 14 shots per game when he is clearly off.Same for Manu.He tries a lot force shots.We have more talent in the backcourt this year and they have to learn it.Maybe Pop too.
    An I can't understand why Hill doesn't play more minutes when Parker is cold like tonight.He is not going to play when Parker is as great as he usually is so why don't give him more minutes when Parker has a bad night? He is ready enough to play more or at least he seemed to be ready in November.
    Certainly Pop has his reasons and he knows this game infinitely better than me

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    answer: there's only one ball to go around. and when you have 3 all-stars on your team capable of winning ballgames on their own + 3 hotshot roleplayers, shots will be at a premium.

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    umm Finley made a big shot at the end.. When we REALLY needed it.. Nets played good D..

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    Teams are also gameplanning for him now so he's getting more respect. As long as we are winning games like we have been I see no problems with his shot selection.

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    Parker and Ginobili are shooting with a higher FG% than Mason and Finley and Parker and Ginobili are playmakers who can get to the FT line with more regularity. Mason has decent handle but is better as a catch and shoot guy. Finley is one of the worst ball-handlers in the NBA.

    Shots per game__FG%:
    Parker 16.6 ____.498
    Duncan 15.4____.514
    Ginobili 11.0____.463
    Mason 9.7_____.445
    Finley 8.8______.432
    Last edited by Solid D; 01-24-2009 at 12:47 AM.

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    He's saving it for the playoffs.

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    Mason > Ginobili
    Mason > Finley
    Mason > Udoka
    Mason > Bowen

    RM JR!!!!!

    HE in rocks.. Dude is so crunch time, the isn't even funny.

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    I wish Pop would run some Rip Hamilton plays for Mason. Mason seems capable of moving off screens and making those shots. It would give us something especially when there are lulls on offense.

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    I wish Pop would run some Rip Hamilton plays for Mason. Mason seems capable of moving off screens and making those shots. It would give us something especially when there are lulls on offense.
    Pop, Whottt and Solid D are still living in the 2004 Olympics. Manu is overrated and a waste of time and money. Time to move on.

    I agree. Mason and "Others" are capable of alot of but alot of you and Popadip are waiting for some kind've of "vintage" ginobili to surface after he takes a dip in the fountain of youth.

    Whatever...

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    Mason is finally giving the Spurs something similar to what they had with Jack. He's just as clutch, although not quite the slasher that Stephen is.

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    Pop, Whottt and Solid D are still living in the 2004 Olympics. Manu is overrated and a waste of time and money. Time to move on.

    I agree. Mason and "Others" are capable of alot of but alot of you and Popadip are waiting for some kind've of "vintage" ginobili to surface after he takes a dip in the fountain of youth.

    Whatever...
    Where were these comments from you 1 game earlier?

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    Pop, Whottt and Solid D are still living in the 2004 Olympics. Manu is overrated and a waste of time and money. Time to move on.

    I agree. Mason and "Others" are capable of alot of but alot of you and Popadip are waiting for some kind've of "vintage" ginobili to surface after he takes a dip in the fountain of youth.

    Whatever...
    Player Efficiency Rating - Shooting Guard

    1 Dwyane Wade, MIA 28.65
    2 Kobe Bryant, LAL 24.37
    3 Brandon Roy, POR 23.85
    4 Manu Ginobili, SAS 22.55
    5 Vince Carter, NJN 20.60

    And that with a not 100% Manu.
    Manu will be better and better the next 3 months.
    He will be a beast in the playoffs.

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    Spurs are Lottery Bound. SequSpur's Avatar
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    Player Efficiency Rating - Shooting Guard

    1 Dwyane Wade, MIA 28.65
    2 Kobe Bryant, LAL 24.37
    3 Brandon Roy, POR 23.85
    4 Manu Ginobili, SAS 22.55
    5 Vince Carter, NJN 20.60

    And that with a not 100% Manu.
    Manu will be better and better the next 3 months.
    He will be a beast in the playoffs.
    yawn....

    watch the fukin game and put down your newspaper.

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    yawn....

    watch the fukin game and put down your newspaper.
    You are a lost cause !

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    yawn....

    watch the ***** game and put down your newspaper.
    How many shots did you make at the Pop-A-Shot in the Kids Zone during the game tonight?

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    yawn....

    watch the fukin game and put down your newspaper.
    Hey short one, enough with the apple martini's



    and why not try a man's drink for once


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    This is the real man's drink:


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    Pop, Whottt and Solid D are still living in the 2004 Olympics. Manu is overrated and a waste of time and money. Time to move on.

    I agree. Mason and "Others" are capable of alot of but alot of you and Popadip are waiting for some kind've of "vintage" ginobili to surface after he takes a dip in the fountain of youth.

    Whatever...
    what the fudge brah???

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    Without even looking at the boxscore, I saw alot of team ball out there on the offensive end. Last time I looked up, other then TD, everyone had right around 7-8points each. I enjoyed the Harris/TP match up. And the almost TD/Lopez matchup. When Timmy hits the bench Pop calls for offense. So it seems anyone who had an open shot had the OK.

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    Or why Finley or Hill can't? They were shooting well in the beginning of the season.
    Finley and Hill actually started the season pretty frigid from the field.

    I said that because I don't know why Manu or TP have to take a big number of shots even when they suck.This year we have more talent in the backcourt.
    It's funny when Spurs fans try to reverse calculate the box score. When Manu or TP take shots, they don't know ahead of time that they are going to have an off shooting game.

    And besides, how do you expect either Manu or TP to break out of a slump if they aren't shooting? Unless you ins ute a rule that neither of them can shoot anymore in a game if they miss three shots in a row, this type of logic doesn't work in basketball.

    Parker was 15/42 Fg last 3 games.35%.I don't know why he is taking 14 shots per game when he is clearly off.Same for Manu.He tries a lot force shots.We have more talent in the backcourt this year and they have to learn it.
    As talented as the backcourt is, Manu and TP are still far and away the most talented guards on the team. It isn't even close.

    It's basically up to Hill to create his own shots. He scores most of his points due to his own aggressiveness. Mason and Finley are jumpshooters who need open room. How does that open room come about? When *gasp* the star players draw the attention of the other team.


    Maybe Pop too.
    An I can't understand why Hill doesn't play more minutes when Parker is cold like tonight.He is not going to play when Parker is as great as he usually is so why don't give him more minutes when Parker has a bad night?
    At what point did you want Parker to sit? Didn't play well in the first half but he's going to start the second half. And then he was the best player on the court in the third. Did you want Pop not to play him in the fourth?

    Certainly Pop has his reasons and he knows this game infinitely better than me
    I'm not sure if you are watching the games or just looking at the boxscore afterwards but if you are just looking at the boxscore, that probably isn't helping your perspective. In the flow of the game and before the final stats are tallied, it's more difficult to second guess.

    Generally speaking, there are times that it makes sense to bench Parker during the regular season -- and we've seen Pop do that. Although tonight against the Nets wasn't one of those times. Harris was lighting up Hill (IIRC, 9 points in about four minutes on him) and the time Parker would have been benched was following his best stretch of the night.

    But I wouldn't agree with ever benching Manu. How many times have we seen Manu do nothing for the first 45 minutes and then win the game in the final three minutes? And yeah, call me strange but I don't care if Manu is taking shots away from Finley, Mason or Hill. I kinda like the future Hall of Famers on the Spurs deciding the outcomes . . .

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    yawn....

    watch the fukin game and put down your newspaper.
    haha!

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    It's funny when Spurs fans try to reverse calculate the box score. When Manu or TP take shots, they don't know ahead of time that they are going to have an off shooting game.

    And besides, how do you expect either Manu or TP to break out of a slump if they aren't shooting? Unless you ins ute a rule that neither of them can shoot anymore in a game if they miss three shots in a row, this type of logic doesn't work in basketball.


    As talented as the backcourt is, Manu and TP are still far and away the most talented guards on the team. It isn't even close.

    It's basically up to Hill to create his own shots. He scores most of his points due to his own aggressiveness. Mason and Finley are jumpshooters who need open room. How does that open room come about? When *gasp* the star players draw the attention of the other team.


    At what point did you want Parker to sit? Didn't play well in the first half but he's going to start the second half. And then he was the best player on the court in the third. Did you want Pop not to play him in the fourth?

    totally agree. it's amazing that someone has to explain a so easy thing to understand. some fans are just dumb.

    and i will laugh when the same people will be sucking manu's and tony's balls to carry the offense in PO, where it's clear that tony and manu don't belong to the same category as Hill, Maso, or finley.

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    An I can't understand why Hill doesn't play more minutes when Parker is cold like tonight.He is not going to play when Parker is as great as he usually is so why don't give him more minutes when Parker has a bad night?
    Maybe because it's probably not a good idea to kill a player's confidence by benching him whenever he has a bad shooting night. But great idea, I'm sure Popovich wants Parker to think, "O crap I might get bench if I miss this" every time he takes a shot.

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    Mason > Ginobili
    Mason > Finley
    Mason > Udoka
    Mason > Bowen

    RM JR!!!!!

    HE in rocks.. Dude is so crunch time, the isn't even funny.
    Mason is a great shooter with absolutely zero drive capability, no way is he even close to the player Manu is.

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    Shots per game__FG%:
    Parker 16.6 ____.498
    Duncan 15.4____.514
    Ginobili 11.0____.463
    Mason 9.7_____.445
    Finley 8.8______.432
    Thanks for those numbers.

    Not much difference in Mason and Finley's fg%. With all the bad mouthing about Finley shooting poorly and taking shots away from Mason you would think he was shooting lights out.

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