The NBA talks about the new Panini deal
By Eric Jahnke
1/27/2009 3:23:42 PM
In this exclusive interview, Lisa Goldberg, the NBA’s Senior Director of Trading Cards, Collectibles and Memorabilia, discusses one of the biggest announcements in recent trading card history, the league’s four-year exclusive trading card agreement with Italian collectibles giant Panini.
The agreement, announced earlier today, begins with the 2009-10 NBA season and will include between 15-20 trading card products a year.
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Beckett Media: How long has this process been in the works?
Lisa Goldberg: Both Topps and Upper Deck are in their final year of their contracts with us so we have been in pretty much ongoing discussions with them for the last several months about what we felt was the right direction for trading cards with regards to the NBA. Both Topps and Upper Deck, as well as ourselves, we were all in agreement that going exclusive was probably the way to go with the market unfortunately continuously going in the wrong direction.
Panini had approached us back over the summer that they were interested in entering the U.S. market as well. So were certainly entertaining any thoughts that any companies had in an effort to try to help the business and get going in the right direction.
BM: What did you see, if anything, in the Upper Deck hockey exclusive that made you think the model works?
LG: When you have an exclusive partner I think it enables you to better manage your brand, our distribution and our marketing partners with one partner. Clearly, the NHL seems to have had a lot of success with Upper Deck in doing that model. We’ve done it in other categories for ourselves as well. We have an exclusive in our apparel footwear category with adidas and in our sporting goods category with Spalding. So it was certainly not unheard of to go in this direction. We’ve done it with other categories and it’s a better way to manage our brand, our distribution and our marketing.
BM: How would you characterize the current NBA trading card market? We’ve had the sense for the last few years that perhaps the NBA market has been struggling more than some of the other sports.
LG: I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Every year, every sport sort of has their shining glory depending on their rookie class. As we all know, rookies really drive this business and I think every sport sort of tends to alternate. One year it’s the NFL’s year, one year it’s the NBA’s year. MLB has their ups and downs, although they don’t really have the same rookie situation.
We certainly jockey positions in the marketplace with everybody from year to year and I think those factors vary from year to year as to why one is better or worse than the other.
BM: This might not be a question for you, but how will exclusive agreements like the ones Upper Deck has with LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and others impact this new deal?
LG: Obviously we know that Upper Deck and Topps have some exclusive deals with some of our current players. We’re going to work all of that out. All of those players are part of our group licensing agreement so they will certainly be included in Panini’s releases and we will certainly work out the details of any exclusives that are still out there.
BM: What excites you the most from a product perspective on what Panini can bring to the market?
LG: What excites us the most is that we’re looking at somebody completely fresh and new. There are no preconceived notions of what this one has done in the past and what that one has done in the past and hasn’t worked. There’s no “this brand usually does well then all of a sudden it tanked for varying reasons” or “this brand did great in one sport but it did terrible in another sport.” It’s all fresh and new and it gives us the opportunity to really get the hobby involved at the ground level; to get their ideas as to what they think works in products and what doesn’t work in products, timing of releases, what kind of content goes into it. It just gives us an opportunity to really start from scratch, gather everybody’s thoughts and hopefully roll them all into a good product mix.
It’s going to be unique and hopefully different than what other people have put out there. We’re obviously working on product development now. Panini has had a lot of success globally, which is one of the reasons we also ended up going with them. The NBA as a sport has a huge global reach so it made sense for us to partner with someone who also had big brand recognition globally for us. They’ve had a lot of success in their sticker business and in their trading card business overseas. We’re really just going to look to them to give us some great ideas that they’ve had that have been successful and bring them here.
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