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Ray crying all over again... not really but still
Game's crucial play kind of spacey
By Frank Dell'Apa
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb...ind_of_spacey/
Ray Allen was feeling claustrophobic on inbounds plays in Boston's 105-99 loss to San Antonio today. So Allen requested official Ron Garretson make some space as the Celtics set up for what might have been their last meaningful possession.
No dice, though. Spurs guard Manu Ginobili got close enough to steal the ball as it slipped from Allen's hands; Ginobili also drew a clear-path foul from Paul Pierce and, four foul shots later, the Spurs led, 99-93.
Allen claimed Ginobili illegally reached over on the play, but he offered no excuses, either.
"I talked to Ronnie and I said before the play that I thought Ginobili should get back a certain distance," Allen said. "When Paul came up, [Ginobili] just kind of came close and I just ... I probably should have pump-faked him, but I was so anxious to get Paul the ball that I turned it over."
Allen was informed Pierce thought the ball slipped from his hands. Again, no excuses.
"If it slipped out of my hands, I know what my intention was, to get Paul the ball," Allen said. "Ultimately it ended up to be a good play on [Ginobili's] part, and you can't take that away from him.
"I told Ron even before that they had to back off because what they were doing the whole game [was] stepping over and trying to get their hands on the ball. [It's] something referees let go if you don't point it out to them throughout the game and I thought that was important at that point because they like to get deflections on the ball and they ended up doing it."
But this was such an unexpected occurrence, even the Spurs were surprised.
"We were waiting to see where the ball was going and you have to look back and realize he stole it," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said.
Ginobili, too, was surprised at getting the steal.
"When you are in the play, everything goes so fast that I am not sure what happened," he said. "But what I think happened was that Ray was going to pass it to [Pierce] and I kind of jumped up and he wanted to pull it back and he lost his grip and it was just in my hands."
Pierce committed the foul in the San Antonio half of the floor, but a backcourt foul can be considered clear-path, meaning Ginobili was awarded free throws and the Spurs kept the ball.
"I was going to come out to get the ball and there was going to be like a screen and roll," Pierce said. "They jumped at the pass, Bruce [Bowen] and Ginobili, and I think Ray kind of hesitated and the ball slipped out of his hands and it just put us in a position where we had to foul. And I thought I fouled him when I was in front of him. But that was a crucial play — my foul really hurt us, gave them two shots and the ball.
"When you play the top teams in the league, it comes down to the little things and I just thought the last couple of games at home, 1- or 2-point games, it's the little things -- defensive transition late in the game, covering for one another. One possession, it's like the playoffs -- one play can kill you. Every possession counts and we've got to understand that when we play against the top-tier teams like the Spurs or Lakers."
Hill gets kudos
Celtics coach Doc Rivers was impressed with San Antonio backup guard George Hill (7 points in 16-plus minutes) during a predraft workout last year. "He's a high character guy," Rivers said. "It would have been interesting if he would have been there. We were very, very high on him because of the way he played. He's tough. He made shots. He would have been a good fit for both teams. He was one of my favorites [in the predraft workout]."
Fine mess for Rivers
Rivers was fined $15,000 for protesting to officials after the Celtics' 110-109 overtime loss to the Lakers Thursday.
"There is nothing you can do about it," Rivers said of the fine. "My wife had the best thing: she said, ‘Did you feel good about it when you did it?' I said, ‘Yeah.' She said, ‘So do they.' Then she said, ‘Make sure it doesn't hurt me on Valentine's Day.'
"That's my first [fine]. I'm hoping it goes to one of those new funds that we are all creating. I hope it's the Doc Rivers Fund."
Ray crying all over again... not really but still
Is there video of this play on youtube at all? I'm not that lazy, it's just Youtube is blocked at work, but not if its embedded here.
At the end of this ty quality vid....
And with that, all those people who said that the Spurs should have waited until the second round to draft Hill can sit down. Rumors had the Celtics picking Hill if he was on the board at the end of the first round and Rivers all but confirmed it.Celtics coach Doc Rivers was impressed with San Antonio backup guard George Hill (7 points in 16-plus minutes) during a predraft workout last year. "He's a high character guy," Rivers said. "It would have been interesting if he would have been there. We were very, very high on him because of the way he played. He's tough. He made shots. He would have been a good fit for both teams. He was one of my favorites [in the predraft workout]."
Yeah, it could have had happened... George Hill and Rajon Rondo in the same team.
Wheres Mr Body to have a witty comeback and say this is BS too?
The play happened exactly as Manu described it.
Hill was fantastic in the first 7 minutes of the 4th Q - at times he singlehandedly kept us in the game with tough plays. Here's to George.
Todays' game is a great example of why you DON'T trade GH for Marcin Gortat!
But Chalmers...
(just kidding)
lol chalmers, his playing starters minutes
and when hill was playing starters minutes early in the season when parker was out, he was putting up comparable numbers also....
dont hate the player, hate the haters....
Celtics might have picked Hill, but the really mind boggling decision was, that they then used the pick on Giddens instead of use it for Chalmers. Chalmers would have been a fantastic fit in Boston.
And when we get killed in the paint and Hill doesn't have a meaningful imprint on the game (things that happen most of the times) what is that example of?The play happened exactly as Manu described it.
Hill was fantastic in the first 7 minutes of the 4th Q - at times he singlehandedly kept us in the game with tough plays. Here's to George.
Todays' game is a great example of why you DON'T trade GH for Marcin Gortat!
Doc Rivers thought a lot of Hill as well. Interesting.
DAF86 - I assume Marcin Gortat is some kind of big player who can control the paint? I apologize for my ignorance on this guy.
However, do you want Vaugh to be the backup point guard? This is not a good thing.
The Spurs have been hurt A LOT by not having Mahimi this year. I'm sure he could have added some energy to the bench like Hill has. The Spurs have gotten a lot younger with Mason, Hill, and Bonner getting a lot more minutes this year. It's been good for the team.
so was a Ray Allen turnover or Manu's steal?
Ray crying all over again... not really but still
Chris Paul has taken away Allen's le as the official NBA cry baby.
I was one of those people. And I agree, Rivers all but confirmed it. Mario Chalmers wouldn't exactly have been a disaster, but I'm glad they picked Hill. I'll sit down now.
It was both, Manu didn't do a whole lot to get that steal.so was a Ray Allen turnover or Manu's steal?
Goratat is just what we need: a young bigman that can block and rebound, and plays with a lot of energy. Manu and/or Mason can play Tony's backup. I think that for us, this season, Gortat would be a lot more useful than Hill. With that said I love George's game and I agree that is a great pick up by this team.
time to stop smoking crack...
Where did that come from?time to stop smoking crack...
Give it a thought, IMO Hill is better than Gortat but who do you think would be more useful for us this season?
If we sign/trade for another big then keep George but if we are going to stay like we are, I would rather have Marcin than him for the playoffs.
good for Doc, don't put up with that Faker crap.
It sounds to me that you saw ONE game from Gortat and fell in love with him or something... I think watching him play 10 games or so would give you a better impression of what he is all about... DEFINITIVELY would be a nice addition but not at the cost of losing Hill...
George Hill is a future star in this league and could easily become the 2,1 future of our franchise... Manu will keep coming from the bench forever and Finley is about to retire... also Mason is not very young you could tell... so that makes any sense now?
Ray crying all over again... not really but still
I saw a that sportscenter had like a 10 minute special on the laker cavs game and they put an awesome 10 second highlight of the spurs celtics game.... Ray Allen is like a spoiled rich kid with a new toy.. if you touch it he cries to mommy.
What is new about Ray Allen crying?
Couldn't have put it any better myself.The play happened exactly as Manu described it.
Hill was fantastic in the first 7 minutes of the 4th Q - at times he singlehandedly kept us in the game with tough plays. Here's to George.
Todays' game is a great example of why you DON'T trade GH for Marcin Gortat!
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