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    The news stories used to talk about the time Mike Brown spent as an assistant coach under Greg Popovich, before taking over at Cleveland. Well Mikey must not have been paying attention while he was here. Tonight he went on a tirade about the officiating in their loss to the Pacers. (He didn't call him by name, but it was Joey Crawford... again.) He never learned anything like that from Greg Popovich. He will definitely get a healthy fine from the league, as if anybody cares. But it's no way to lead a team, or to teach them to be winners.

    It reminded me of some of the tirades by Mike D'Antoni over the years. And I think that those always weakened the Suns, because they quit focusing on playing basketball. Tonight LeBron said the same sort of things in his interview, in less harsh words. It's one thing for the fans to scream about officiating, but it's another when the coach does it, and gets his players doing the same. I wouldn't be surprised if this sets the tone for the rest of their season.

    Here is an article about it, with most of Brown's comments. But you really need to see video to appreciate just how bad it made him look.

    http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....xcoriates.html

    INDIANAPOLIS -- Cavaliers coach Mike Brown stormed out of the locker room and launched a tirade against NBA official Joey Crawford in the wake of his team's wild 96-95 loss to the Indiana Pacers on Tuesday night in Canseco Fieldhouse. Although Brown did not call Crawford by name, he was incensed over a foul Crawford called on LeBron James with .1 of a second left that sent All-Star Danny Granger to the line for what turned out to be the game-winning free throw. It was the first time this season the Cavs lost back-to-back games.

    Brown alleged that after referee Bennie Adams called Granger for a foul on James on an inbounds play with .4 of a second left that allowed James to make two free throws and tie the score at 95, Crawford responded by deliberately calling a foul on a similar play on the other end.


    "I went back and I watched the last two plays and that last call on LeBron was the worst call I've ever been a part of," a seething Brown said. "I cannot imagine another worse call than that by that official. It was an awful call and for him to take away a basketball game from a team with .4 seconds on the clock is irresponsible. That is an irresponsible call.
    It was predetermined from the call that was made on the other end of the floor and it was very unfortunate because there were a lot of men out on the floor that were working their (behind) off to try to win the ball game. We got that game taken away from us on a horse -- excuse my French -- horsecrap call with .2 seconds left on the clock by that official. Absolutely horrible."

    "You can not ... you can not ... you can not predetermine a call to try to make something up for the other end of the floor," Brown said, his voice rising. "I saw it. I was a foul down there with .4 second. Down here, it was not. LeBron was in between his man and the basket. He went up in the air when the ball was tipped. And for that official to predetermine his call was awful. It was awful. That's why we lost the game.

    "I never blame the officials. But that call was a predetermined call and he should have swallowed his whistle on it. But he did not."




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    What a joke.

    Dude is showing no class in this. For those that missed the game, the refs almost handed Team Lebron a win at the very end on a bull phantom alley-oop foul call.

    Then the pacers got the same exact call on the other end.

    Typical case of the refs having to make up for a stupid ass foul call on the previous play.

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    Lebron was whining too. I wonder if he'll get a fine.

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    It's not the first time he has spent money complaining. It won't be the last. Pop's way isn't always the right way... if Timmy hadn't spent money complaining about Joey kicking out of the game for laughing... i doubt Joey gets suspended...

    Sometimes spending money on a fine works... Ask Phil Jackson...

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    Brown has to stick up for his superstar. Pop defends Tim with the refs as well and occasionally gets a technical, however after the game he always gets his composure back.

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    it works for phil

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    Probably because Mike Brown just realized he lost the regular season championship.

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    "I went back and I watched the last two plays and that last call on LeBron was the worst call I've ever been a part of," a seething Brown said.
    Actually, the call in Lebron's favor was worse.

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    If it happened to the Spurs I might be just as livid but I definitely agree that getting fined/suspended to get your message across can be worth the trouble especially if it produces results.

    Maybe this will motivate the NBA to push for that particular ref to retire.

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    both calls were bad, so complaining is stupid, but I understand..it's his team..

    it's also funnier because it's the Cavs..Lebron has gotten so many ridiculous calls over the years, even at the end of games..ask Wizards fans how they feel about this..

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    bizarre ending.

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    he'll get fined

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    It was a horrible call . . .

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    The Cavs have lost their composure lately. The injuries and the returning to bad habits are causing this loss of composure to happen.

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    With respect to the other comments, there's still a big difference in what Brown did, and anything you hear coming from Greg Popovich. It's when he says, "That's why we lost the game."

    I've heard Pop comment about officiating now and then (but not often). But when it comes to losing games, his response is always, "We got out-played." He doesn't give his team any excuses. And with Cleveland's record right now, they don't even need any excuses. That victim mentality is habit-forming.

    The Cavs shot 29 FT's vs 13 for the Pacers, but they only shot 72% from the line. That's where they lost the game.

    The Cavs shot 28% from the 3P line, and turned the ball over 15 times. That's where they lost the game.

    The Cavs got outscored in the paint 40-36, and LeBron led their team with 4 assists for the night. That's where they lost the game.

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    The funniest part is JOB ran the exact same play on the other end tempting the refs to make the same call- and they did.

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    It was a horrible call on both ends of the floor.

    The Cavs should have never gotten the 1st call to begin with.

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    ...turned the ball over 15 times.

    The Cavs got outscored in the paint 40-36...
    Turnovers were the key, and Roy and Rasho did a nice job on Ilgauskas.

    The difference is Pop will always say that you do not put yourself in a position to have one call decide a game like that. And without that call, they still go to OT.

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    they were both horrible calls, for tat. and they were the exact same play and exact same foul, for mike brown to get mad at it is re ed. take the loss and move on. quit making excuses

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    they were both horrible calls, for tat. and they were the exact same play and exact same foul, for mike brown to get mad at it is re ed. take the loss and move on. quit making excuses
    Horrid calls, both should have been non-calls at that point in the game.

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    Either way, Crawford is really on his way to s om.

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    It was a horrible call on both ends of the floor.

    The Cavs should have never gotten the 1st call to begin with.
    +1

    I agreed with Gary Payton on NBATV too.

    Should've been a no call.

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    The Cavs have lost their composure lately. The injuries and the returning to bad habits are causing this loss of composure to happen.
    The coming back to earth as well.

    I've stated all season long I thought the Cav's record was fools gold and they would come back to the pack.

    There IMO is only 3 serious teams.


    Lakers
    Celtics
    Spurs.

    IMO, thats it.

    Especially with Jameer Nelson out for the Magic.

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    The coming back to earth as well.

    I've stated all season long I thought the Cav's record was fools gold and they would come back to the pack.

    There IMO is only 3 serious teams.


    Lakers
    Celtics
    Spurs.

    IMO, thats it.

    Especially with Jameer Nelson out for the Magic.

    They might not be a candidate to win it all, but Philadelphia could knock out any team in the East. And, frankly, I'm glad that the Spurs don't have to worry about meeting them in an early round of the playoffs.

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    The coming back to earth as well.

    I've stated all season long I thought the Cav's record was fools gold and they would come back to the pack.

    There IMO is only 3 serious teams.


    Lakers
    Celtics
    Spurs.

    IMO, thats it.

    Especially with Jameer Nelson out for the Magic.
    It's not like the Cavs are playing with a healthy unit out there. Wallace and Z are both out of game shape, missing the X factor Delonte. I hope they make you eat your words.

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