Best Defensive team is Spurs' history?

[Jimcs50]

Spurs are:

#1 in FG% against

#1 in points allowed

#1 in blocks

#1 in rebounds (52.8%)

#1 in point differential

[Solid D]

I'd have to give the honor to the 1998-99 team.

[Jimcs50]

I'd have to give the honor to the 1998-99 team.

They were not #1 in rebounding though, Solid. This is the determining factor, IMO.

[Jimcs50]

And, the NBA's new rules make it even tougher to play defense, the scoring renascence this year is proof of that.

[travis2]

And, the NBA's new rules make it even tougher to play defense, the scoring renascence this year is proof of that.

Now Jim, I know you had to look that word up...

[Solid D]

Rebounds can be important but most defense takes place prior to the rebound. Rebounds seal the empty trip, agreed, but the Spurs are giving up a very high percentage of makes from the arc this year.

1998-99, although shortened, was a league record .401, in fact was in the .39xs for much of that season.

[Jimcs50]

Now Jim, I know you had to look that word up...

Travis, not true, I have been known as a Renascence Man for years...so I am quite familiar with the word.

[Jimcs50]

Rebounds can be important but most defense takes place prior to the rebound. Rebounds seal the empty trip, agreed, but the Spurs are giving up a very high percentage of makes from the arc this year.

1998-99, although shortened, was a league record .401, in fact was in the .39xs for much of that season.

Solid, see my next post on the better scoring this year because of the rule changes. Apples and Oranges, my friend.

[Solid D]

Apples and oranges are then subject to personal taste. I like oranges better....at least today.

[ShoogarBear]

Travis, not true, I have been known as a Renascence Man for years...so I am quite familiar with the word.

Too bad "familiar" != "know how to spell".

[Solid D]

Unfortunately, Jim is using an accepted spelling, although the purists will spell it in the older French style Renaissance.

[Jimcs50]

Unfortunately, Jim is using an accepted spelling, although the purists will spell it in the older French style Renaissance.

the French!

A certain point guard is excluded.

[exstatic]

Rebounds can be important but most defense takes place prior to the rebound.

You get a stop. The other team gets an O board. You get another stop. The other team gets ANOTHER O board. They score, but you've just held them to .33 shooting. Was that good defense?

Sean said that one of Pop's mantras is that the defense isn't done until the possession changes in your favor.

[Jimcs50]

You get a stop. The other team gets an O board. You get another stop. The other team gets ANOTHER O board. They score, but you've just held them to .33 shooting. Was that good defense?

Sean said that one of Pop's mantras is that the defense isn't done until the possession changes in your favor.

ex, it looks good in the stat sheet holding them to .333 shooting, but it is not good defense if they score on that possession, IMO.

[boutons]

Renascence

Etymology:alteration (influenced by renascent) of renaissance

Meaning is the same, but Renascence is very probably a bas ization based on ignorance of the traditional spelling. And "Renascence" wouldn't be pronounced the same as "Renaissance".

And I don't think the military with be doing any "(freedom) reconnascence" anytime soon instead of "(French) reconnaissance".

[Solid D]

I would like to state a case for why I think the 1998-99 team was better on defense than this season's team. The primary difference was David Robinson and his backup Will Perdue. David was a premier shot-blocker and could recover from mistakes (his and others) with his cat-like quickness, spring and athleticism.

There were some games where Pop went with a triple towers approach, (Timmy at the 3), ex. @ Indiana and holding Larry Bird's team to a record low in points (in the 60s). They ran through the playoffs like an F5 tornado, losing only 2 games.

Individual matchups at the other positions have their strengths on this year's team, but the middle was almost impenetrable in 1998-99.

[travis2]

Renascence

Etymology:alteration (influenced by renascent) of renaissance

Meaning is the same, but Renascence is very probably a bas ization based on ignorance of the traditional spelling. And "Renascence" wouldn't be pronounced the same as "Renaissance".

And I don't think the military with be doing any "(freedom) reconnascence" anytime soon instead of "(French) reconnaissance".

It's not pronounced the same. Accent on middle syllable, long "A" sound.

* = schwa

r*-NAY-s*nce

[Rummpd]

Best will be if they turn it up another notch and get a crown. They can!

[Jimcs50]

I would like to state a case for why I think the 1998-99 team was better on defense than this season's team. The primary difference was David Robinson and his backup Will Perdue. David was a premier shot-blocker and could recover from mistakes (his and others) with his cat-like quickness, spring and athleticism.

There were some games where Pop went with a triple towers approach, (Timmy at the 3), ex. @ Indiana and holding Larry Bird's team to a record low in points (in the 60s). They ran through the playoffs like an F5 tornado, losing only 2 games.

Individual matchups at the other positions have their strengths on this year's team, but the middle was almost impenetrable in 1998-99.

Solid, I can not argue with you here, because that 99 team was dominant especially in the middle, but on the perimeter, we have 5-6 guys that can absolutely shut down any guard or sm foward at any given time. If we had the 99 version of DRob as Rasho's backup, the Spurs would be awesome and maybe undefeated.

[Jimcs50]

It's not pronounced the same. Accent on middle syllable, long "A" sound.

* = schwa

r*-NAY-s*nce

Thankyou Professor Peabody.

[Solid D]

You get a stop. The other team gets an O board. You get another stop. The other team gets ANOTHER O board. They score, but you've just held them to .33 shooting. Was that good defense?

Sean said that one of Pop's mantras is that the defense isn't done until the possession changes in your favor.

I did confirm in my earlier post that a rebound seals an empty trip...however, don't make me get out my list of the leading rebounding teams in the NBA the past several seasons. Hint: this years' leaders: The Lakers

I do put credence in Rebound Differential...but not as a "determining" factor.

[Jimcs50]

I did confirm in my earlier post that a rebound seals an empty trip...however, don't make me get out my list of the leading rebounding teams in the NBA the past several seasons. Hint: this years' leaders: The Lakers

I do put credence in Rebound Differential...but not as a "determining" factor.

Lakers are not number one in percentage(Spurs are), which is the true gage of rebounding expertise, like opponent FG% is truer gage of defense over points allowed.

[ShoogarBear]

Freaky. I've never seen that spelling before. It's ugly as sin.

What next? Will it start being valid to "loose" a game?

Back to the topic, I've seen people look at things likes points per possession, which is probably a more accurate overall assessment of defense, but I'm not sure where these would be archived.

[Solid D]

Lakers are not number one in percentage(Spurs are), which is the true gage of rebounding expertise, like opponent FG% is truer gage of defense over points allowed.

That's true. Rebound % is another way of presenting rebounding differential, in which the Spurs are number one. Maybe a useful prooftext to your theory that Rebound diff. or % is the determining factor in team defensive effectiveness would be to look at the leaders in that category (maybe top 5) over the past 5-6 years.

[Jimcs50]

Freaky. I've never seen that spelling before. It's ugly as sin.

What next? Will it start being valid to "loose" a game?

Back to the topic, I've seen people look at things likes points per possession, which is probably a more accurate overall assessment of defense, but I'm not sure where these would be archived.

Shoog, this point right here lends credence to my hypothesis. This Spurs team shoots a lot faster on the clock, scores more points and therefore this team had to defend a lot more possessions than the 99 team did.