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    After watching these two guys play for half a season, who would u pick if we were drafting and both guys were available?

    I love georgie but batum would be great to have. He's got just as much length as george but is about 6 inches taller meaning he can guard guys like kobe and lebron.

    Basically, the back up point guard or that long 3?

    damn, i have to go with batum.

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    it would of been nice to get batum in the 1st round,geroge hill in the second and gist with the other pick and signed hariston to the spurs because i don't think any team of would of gave him a chance

    but batum will get stronger he's only 19

    we would have mihmmi,batum,parker as our future starting lineup

    the 3 french boys haha

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    Hopefully in a few years, with all the extremely talented players the Blazers have, a couple things will happen: they'll have such depth that they won't be able to give all of their developing guys enough time to showcase their skills, and they'll have to start paying them when their rookie contracts run out around the same time (they can't afford all of them). Maybe we can get Batum for a relatively great deal in a few years, he did want to come here after all.

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    Batboy had 8 points, 1 rebound and a steal...
    Wow...
    Dude got lucky off the steal and even more lucky 3 point shot.
    You'll forget about him when Gist comes over next year.

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    Batum was my favourite guy in the entire draft, so i would still take him. But George has been better than any of us could have expected, especially earlier in the season when he had a larger role.

    I would take Batum, even today. But im definately happy with Hill.

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    Don't worry, Batum will join the Spurs in the future. He was pissed that he got picked by Houston in the draft. He really wanted to come to the Spurs..

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    Their minutes are almost identical, and Hill's numbers are considerably better. But Hill also has a of a lot of upside - he will improve steadily over the next couple of seasons.

    The first thing is that he will learn how to finish better at the rim. He gets there very well, and he puts up a lot of good shots that just don't quite go. He'll get better at getting those to fall, and that alone will put him up around 10 ppg, with the same bench minutes.

    I haven't watched Batum enough to comment about his defensive consistency, but Hill doesn't take a second off on the defensive end. He's already a good defender, and he's getting better. He's smart, and he works his ass off.

    Batum is doing well for a rookie. But a solid backup PG is a very nice thing for any team to have. The fact that Pop has given JV's minutes to Hill as a rookie says a lot. We're damned lucky to have him. Not lucky... it was a good pick by the Spurs' FO.

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    I think in 3 years, Hill and Batum will be the top defenders at each of their respective positions.

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    Their minutes are almost identical, and Hill's numbers are considerably better. But Hill also has a of a lot of upside - he will improve steadily over the next couple of seasons.

    The first thing is that he will learn how to finish better at the rim. He gets there very well, and he puts up a lot of good shots that just don't quite go. He'll get better at getting those to fall, and that alone will put him up around 10 ppg, with the same bench minutes.

    I haven't watched Batum enough to comment about his defensive consistency, but Hill doesn't take a second off on the defensive end. He's already a good defender, and he's getting better. He's smart, and he works his ass off.

    Batum is doing well for a rookie. But a solid backup PG is a very nice thing for any team to have. The fact that Pop has given JV's minutes to Hill as a rookie says a lot. We're damned lucky to have him. Not lucky... it was a good pick by the Spurs' FO.
    You have to admit, he made both of his difficult layups last night, except the one that was destroyed by Joel.

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    We could have used Batum way more this year but that doesn't mean he's a better player. However, if Gist shows up next year and can play the 3 then we win both ways.

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    Batum or Hill, Batum or Hill?

    DeAndre Jordan.

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    Batum or Hill, Batum or Hill?

    DeAndre Jordan.


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    Batum or Hill, Batum or Hill?

    DeAndre Jordan.
    Jordan could really have added alot, maybe 10 Points and 10 Boards...








    The Toros really needed an inside prescence with Ian going down.

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    Batboy had 8 points, 1 rebound and a steal...
    Wow...
    Dude got lucky off the steal and even more lucky 3 point shot.
    You'll forget about him when Gist comes over next year.
    and how many points did ing scrub hill have?

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    kill youself fat lips

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    So is Louis a Blazers fan now?

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    I pick Gist!!!

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    It is very close.
    Right now Hill is probably a better player.
    But I think I would pick Batum.
    I believe he as more upside and could be a borderline All Star in a few years.
    He is also more than 2 years younger.

    That being said I am very happy with Hill. Batum or Hill, the Spurs scouts did a great job last year.

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    It is very close.
    Right now Hill is probably a better player.
    But I think I would pick Batum.
    I believe he as more upside and could be a borderline All Star in a few years.
    He is also more than 2 years younger.

    That being said I am very happy with Hill. Batum or Hill, the Spurs scouts did a great job last year.
    That 'could be an All-Star because of his potential' is over worked in todays NBA. About half the NBA at some point has been called a potential All-Star because they have shown very small glimpses, and/or have good physical tools.

    Right now, as much defensive potential as Batum has, he doesnt really have much else. He has a decent long range shot and he runs the floor well, but in terms of skill - hes a long, long way off.

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    After watching these two guys play for half a season, who would u pick if we were drafting and both guys were available?

    I love georgie but batum would be great to have. He's got just as much length as george but is about 6 inches taller meaning he can guard guys like kobe and lebron.

    Basically, the back up point guard or that long 3?

    damn, i have to go with batum.
    I will take Hill..at first I hate him but the more I see him playing,the more i like him. He can slashed in like TP and defense, last game i saw him block shots and really hustle for the ball. He can shot FT and jumper as well...and he is still rookie so plenty time to develop. I havent seen Batum played lots of minutes but so far he is not that great, although if hes in spurs he will do more

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    For me it's Batum no hesitation, he is very very young but damn the kid has an incredible potential, he can do everything scoring, defense, passing, rebounding, bloks à la Boris Diaw in better.

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    Batum, easily.

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    Chalmers...

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    For me it's Batum no hesitation, he is very very young but damn the kid has an incredible potential, he can do everything scoring, defense, passing, rebounding, bloks à la Boris Diaw in better.

    You really should look at more than just one game that Batum played against a short-handed Spurs team. Don't forget that Batum is 6'8" and Hill is somewhere between 6'1" and 6'2". They have played almost identical minutes, but:

    Hill has scored 348 points vs 289 for Batum
    Hill has 127 rebounds vs 155 for Batum
    Hill has gone to the line 124 times vs 34 for Batum
    Hill 110 assists vs 53 for Batum
    Hill has 18 blocks vs 31 for Batum
    Hill has 31 steals vs 37 for Batum

    Batum is taller, but that is about the only place he has a significant advantage over Hill. I guess we will see how they develop over time, but in terms of production this season, Hill has a big advantage. And even though Batum hit that 3-pointer last night, he is shooting .333 from the 3-P line, which is just barely adequate.

    I'll take Hill.

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    Both players fill a need and both are young developing players with bright futures. However for me, it definitely Batum. He was my idea of exactly what the Spurs have needed in a SF. He's got great length, versatile, good defender and shotblocker and seems to have more of an emerging offensive game than Bowen did when he was younger. Knowing how badly he wanted to be a Spur also makes favor him even more. We're lucky to have found Hill and he's been better than expected. However if I had my choice, it's Batum.

    As someone stated earlier, I hold out out that the Spurs will have a shot at him when his rookie contract expires.

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