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    He doesn't have the best court vision or ball handling skills. He turned the ball over last night and has in the past when taking over PG duties. IMO, he is a little overrated as a backup PG. I know Pop is still experimenting with the lineup and rotations still, but c'mon. Pop needs to let Hill handle the PG duties. He's not that much better than Mason, but he's a rookie. Rookies are bound to make mistakes.

    Your thoughts?

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    Pop loves messing with the lineups for national TV games so people will realize how good a coach he is. His insertion of smallball with Mason as the point guard was basketball gold.

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    he scored 25 points, or something along the lines.

    would you say that's overrated?

    honestly, though, when he's on fire - i love the idea of him bringing down the ball each play and shooting a three.

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    Easy question : NO NO NO AND NO

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    Pop loves messing with the lineups for national TV games so people will realize how good a coach he is. His insertion of smallball with Mason as the point guard was basketball gold.
    Is this the latest he's ever experimented in the season? I though by now, we'd have our rotation taking shape. I wonder how many wins the spurs would have if he wouldn't jack around so much.

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    Although he makes me nervous handling the ball, Mason will at least get the benefit of some calls. I can envision Hill driving to the hoop in the playoffs and getting consistently knocked on his ass and never hearing a whistle.

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    he scored 25 points, or something along the lines.

    would you say that's overrated?
    Since he doesn't get credit for an assist when he steps into an empty area and shoots it, then he's certainly overrated by Pop as a point guard. The point guard's job is to run the offense, which means getting shots for other people and not turning it over. , on this forum, Manu doesn't get away with turning the ball over like Mason did.

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    Hopefully we are not going with Mason as the backup point during the playoffs. Mason is almost a pure 2 guard. If Pop is not going to trust Hill I would rather have Manu running the point.

    Vaughn has better PG skills.

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    Is this the latest he's ever experimented in the season? I though by now, we'd have our rotation taking shape. I wonder how many wins the spurs would have if he wouldn't jack around so much.
    No, 2006 he decided to bench his entire center rotation not long after one of them hit a three pointer in a blowout first round playoff win. The team went .500 from that point forward and was bounced in the second round.

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    Just posted this in Mason = Beast before this thread came up... but Ill reitterate it here.


    Ive been thinking the same thing the last two games. Every time Mason and Harriston were running the back court I would wonder "where is Hill." Last night as I was wondering this Jeff Van Gundy (best announcer in the nba imo) answered it for me. Hills jump shot isn't good enough to have him on the floor when teams are doubling duncan. Come playoff time we cant have hill out there if teams elect to double in the post, because it gives them a guy to double off of. I hadnt even considered that, but it makes perfect sense. *edit* this of course is true with Vaughn as well.

    I also have grown on Mason at the point, he proved last night he can create his own shots, hes getting better at attacking the rim, and hes a better passer then Hill at the moment.

    Hill plays good defense and I love his athleticism. Hes going to be a great addition to the team for several years... But he has a shoot first mentallity, isnt a great passer and is very inconsistent from mid-range and 3 point land. <3 Hill but I think thats what worries pop about using him as much.

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    The good thing is he has the ball in his hands so he can shot more, we saw that in the 2nd quarter when he was on fire.

    But I don't like his ball handling skills. I think this will be over as soon Manu is back.

    Manu will be the backup PG in the playoffs

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    Hill is not much better. I've seen in recent games turnovers left and right, and people pull up and J, un-contested right in Hill's face..So I believe I would rather have Mason being backup to Tony, atleast he can score us some points too!!

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    The good thing is he has the ball in his hands so he can shot more, we saw that in the 2nd quarter when he was on fire.

    But I don't like his ball handling skills. I think this will be over as soon Manu is back.

    Manu will be the backup PG in the playoffs
    Man during I don't know how many years Pop was looking for a back up PG, he has one now not a perfect one but a decent one and we will go back to the old manu / barry / whatever SG as PG when TP is on the bench ??

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    No, HIll should be the second PG

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    No, HIll should be the second PG
    I agree but I think Pop will go with Manu.

    I think Pop still have Beno 05 Finals nightmares

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    I know Mason pulling up to score is a good thing, but I think good defensive teams are going to exploit Mason's lack of ball handling skills. I doubt Pop goes with Mason as the backup PG in the playoffs, but still. I think Pop needs to give more minutes to Hill so that he can gain some more confidence.

    When Parker was out with that injury early in the season, a lot of you here were all over Hill's stuff. I thought he did great too for being a rookie. What happened is all I am saying?

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    i know mason pulling up to score is a good thing, but i think good defensive teams are going to exploit mason's lack of ball handling skills. I doubt pop goes with mason as the backup pg in the playoffs, but still. I think pop needs to give more minutes to hill so that he can gain some more confidence.

    When parker was out with that injury early in the season, a lot of you here were all over hill's stuff. I thought he did great too for being a rookie. What happened is all i am saying?
    +1

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    Years go by and we are unable to get a good back up PG…. that freaking sucks …

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    He doesn't have the best court vision or ball handling skills. He turned the ball over last night and has in the past when taking over PG duties. IMO, he is a little overrated as a backup PG. I know Pop is still experimenting with the lineup and rotations still, but c'mon. Pop needs to let Hill handle the PG duties. He's not that much better than Mason, but he's a rookie. Rookies are bound to make mistakes.

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    We will have a better idea about what Pop want to do with the backup PG spot when Manu will be back.
    What the backup PG should do is a lot different when Manu is on on the court.

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    NO. The only thing that works with him as PG is the pull up jumper off a pick.

    Besides that, his ball handling skills aren't very good. I don't know why some people on here, and even Pop say that he handles the ball well, when he doesn't. He turned the ball over against Dallas on 2 straight possessions, I believe. Hill MUST be the backup PG, not Mason.

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    The Mason PG experiment failed.

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    Since he doesn't get credit for an assist when he steps into an empty area and shoots it, then he's certainly overrated by Pop as a point guard. The point guard's job is to run the offense, which means getting shots for other people and not turning it over. , on this forum, Manu doesn't get away with turning the ball over like Mason did.
    True, Manu would've been roasted for 2 TOs. I hope Hill plays backup once Manu is back, and Pop gets a little crazy and benches Fin for Bowen.

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    Pop loves messing with the lineups for national TV games so people will realize how good a coach he is. His insertion of smallball with Mason as the point guard was basketball gold.
    Yeah his ego is that huge.

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    I like Mase runnin the point... against ty teams though...

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