WTF was that last play?
The funny part was I called it to the three people I was watching the game with.
"We will put Tony out top, and put it all on him."
Shocker that it turned out that way, I tell ya...
Tony had tunnel vision all night long. He missed numerous wide open teammates looking to score by himself. Why put him in that situation at the end, when you know it's gonna play out the same tired way?
Over the last five years, the Spurs have got to have pissed away more fourth quarters than any team in the NBA.
But Pop's a great coach, he's got more rings than you or me [/Tpark]
That last play call was a vintage Gregg Popovich end of game special.
"Hmm, I've got five guys on the court, I'll use one of them." [/pop]
yeah id say he knows more about basketball than you could dream to have.
What, no more free throw coach threads until you were shut the up by Kori when she told you how many coaches pop had brought in?
New thread, same .
Wasnt it proven in a thread a little while back that almost every player we bring in suffers a decrease in FT % when they play for us?
Being a great coach doesnt make him perfect.
Tpark, why do you always change the subject when you're getting your ass handed to you.
Gravy training on someone else's info? Kori didn't set me in my place, she made me aware of something I wasn't privvy to. dude, get over it.
Tpark, answer this: do you think that was a *smart* play we ran at the end tonight? One shot to try to tie with 17 seconds to play? I'm waiting.
Gee, I wonder if it might have become a "broken" play maybe.
nahhhh.
Sorry, T Park, there was nothing broken about it.
They just stood around. No picks for anyone, no motion. I don't think TP seriously looked for anyone during the whole time.
i guess Robert Horry running to the top with two guys on his ass and trying to make a pick and roll play doesn't count.No picks for anyone
Nopers.
That wasn't part of the play set, for Horry to try and bail TP out with three seconds to go. That was a smart veteran realizing Tony was ed and trying to bail him out.
The play was this ... Horry was supposed to get the ball to Barry for 3. That didn't materialize. So Tony got the ball and waited for a pick to come that never did. If you guys all think that the play was for Tony to just stand there and then chuck a shot, you are nuts.
If the play was broken and the pick never came, for whatever reason, you adapt. You don't dribble yourself out of the game ala Francis. Tony should have shaken off Najera and gone for a penetration&dish with Barry/Horry or a 2 pt play and a fast foul afterwards. Using all the clock and throwing a wild, contested, low percentage 3, using a low % 3PT player is not the first option that comes to mind to take the game into OT.
Not a big deal, but TP has at the very least shared responsabilty with Pop for that FUBAR.
The pick wasn't part of the original play. The original play was just Horry to Barry. That didn't happen, so Tony thought the other players would adapt and come set a pick. They didn't. He tried to get the ball to another 3 point shooter but didn't see anyone, so he took a desperation shot. I'm not saying that none of it is on Tony. Tony should have seen Devin in the corner; he didn't.
After the play — which was designed for Robert Horry to get Barry a 3-point attempt — broke down, Tony Parker held the ball on the right wing and waited for a screen that never materialized.
He misfired an off-balance 26-footer just before the buzzer.
"I was just there as a safety for Brent," Parker said. "It was just a bad play. We had nothing."
The last play didn't lose the game. It just provided the final icing. The game was lost during the 0-10 fiasco which preceded it.
They didn't deserve to win it. All I can say is, "basketball IQ" is highly overrated. Give me the tough SOBs who know how to seal a deal.
And they've probably got the best record of any NBA team in that same five-year stretch. So, they've probably held on to a few leads too, me thinks.
They have the best record in all of the major sports over the last eight years. Spurs fans should be more thankful.
Best regular season record over that time. But not most championships. Not even the most NBA championships.
The reason? Inability to executte down the stretch. It was a direct causes of the 2002 playoff loss; slighly less so in 2004. (And it's was something the had to overcome to win in 2003.)
And all indications are it's going to be a problem in 2005.
All indications?And all indications are it's going to be a problem in 2005.
Because of two losses without Manu and Tim? Are you planning on not having them in the postseason?
The Spurs have only lost 15 games this season -- better record than any other Spurs team in history at this time of the season. A few of those losses were due to poor 4th quarter execution. I don't know if that's a strong indicator of anything.
Is that ShoogarBear codespeak for Jax > Barry?All I can say is, "basketball IQ" is highly overrated. Give me the tough SOBs who know how to seal a deal.
*sigh*
spilt milk, Kori.
Parker was effectively stopped by Najera jumping the pick in the 4th. For four year now I've wondered why when Parker's been handled on P&R by aggressively jumping the pick driving him wide the Spurs don't go to flattening the offense on the baseline and have Parker isolate on his man at the top of the key, take him off the dribble to the basket, not always just rely on the pic & roll. Spurs will do it rarely but effectively as the last play at end of quarters but that's about the only time I see it.
"Spurs will do it rarely"
In the win @PHX, Manu was given the ball alone many times at the top of the key while everybody else cleared out.
Last edited by boutons; 03-13-2005 at 10:47 AM.
Rarely with Parker
apolgies es??
there was nothing broken about it
?????
salute
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