Obviously yes defense is a huge problem. But our scoring droughts are just so difficult to watch. Missed 3 after missed 3, yes you live by the 3 you die by the 3. The thing is I know alot of people say we are short a big man from being serious contenders. In my opinion, I think its a wing player, someone to take pressure of the outside and really open up the lane. It would also help Tim Duncan because his passes these days aren't really to cutters like they used to be. We need someone who can slash and really give us a different style, with that I feel like the 3 ball would be less pressured and we would be a much bigger threat offensively. Maybe im stating the obvious but its just something I noticed. Finley and Mason aren't those slashers we needed. Im not saying the VC trade would have done it either and I don't mean this to be a pipe dream thread where everyone picks the perfect player for us. I honestly just feel one wing player would make SO much difference to this team and really keep there window open longer. I don't know who, but someone would put us back in that dominant position. Hopefully they can pull it off this year, but if not and im the FO I think its seriously time to start looking at some players to fill our void in 3 spot.
Spurs could use the long, athletic SF you mention. Also could use a productive big man to help out Timmy. Also a reliable backup PG. Unfortunately, SPurs will enter the playoffs with the roster they have and it remains to be seen how deep they far they can go. It will be interesting.
If Gooden can start to play well, think about it. You have decent big men role players in KT and Fab and Bonner can come in and contribute offensively. I just feel a solid wing player would really push this team over the edge.
No doubt. Lots of ifs and maybes for this season. Spurs still have to gel offensively and defensively. Injuries and familiarizing new players are the main culprits. I still think the Spurs can compete but only if Timmy gets some semblance of his old self back and starts dominating in the post, if manu regains his form and Parker doesn't burn himself out. I think with a solid Big 3, the Spurs will be in the thick of it but even now that's not a given.
It will be an intersting off season though and the fate of a number of role players will depend how they perform in the next couple of months.
I feel like if we got a solid starting SF(maybe like a Nocioni) than it would improve our bench. Yeah, obviously We get pissed at Finley and Mason for being less than zero on the floor if there not hitting there shots, players like Bonner, Mason and Finley coming off the bench though would be huge no matter how old Finley is, no matter how much Bonner and Mason suck at D, they would be amazing bench players adding so much depth and make for a good bench. I just feel a solid small foward would take the pressure off of the spurs ENTIRE game.
If we keep Gooden and he evolves our big man problems are almost solved. But god damn our wing needs work. Is there anything in the offseason we could do? I feel even if we win a championship our lack of a slasher in a 3 spot is more than obvious. If we get one, our window stays open longer.
The need for the other positions to carry the load is becoming more apparent with the decline of Duncan due to his knee problems. Used to be Timmy would punish the opposition in the paint but he's really struggling.. he doesn't draw in the defense like he used to so now Spurs perimeter game is suffering. Its sad that TD will be handicapped to a certain extent for the remainder of his career.. like I said, it will be an interesting offseason.
one knee and ankle away from a championship imo....
they are a couple of healthy knees from being great.
Come back SJaxObviously yes defense is a huge problem. But our scoring droughts are just so difficult to watch. Missed 3 after missed 3, yes you live by the 3 you die by the 3. The thing is I know alot of people say we are short a big man from being serious contenders. In my opinion, I think its a wing player, someone to take pressure of the outside and really open up the lane. It would also help Tim Duncan because his passes these days aren't really to cutters like they used to be. We need someone who can slash and really give us a different style, with that I feel like the 3 ball would be less pressured and we would be a much bigger threat offensively. Maybe im stating the obvious but its just something I noticed. Finley and Mason aren't those slashers we needed. Im not saying the VC trade would have done it either and I don't mean this to be a pipe dream thread where everyone picks the perfect player for us. I honestly just feel one wing player would make SO much difference to this team and really keep there window open longer. I don't know who, but someone would put us back in that dominant position. Hopefully they can pull it off this year, but if not and im the FO I think its seriously time to start looking at some players to fill our void in 3 spot.LOL
If they just get rid of Finley they'll be fine.
I must admit this season the 3 spot looks extremely bad, but I'm honestly not to worried about the Spur future regarding it. We most likely have Gist and Hairston joining the team for next season and they both have looked very promising.
We haven't seen Gist play any NBA minutes yet, but from the little time Hairston got he was able to show some very good things.
I don't want to sound preachy but, Hairston has shown that fearless drive to the basket, and is a good 1 0n 1 defender. If he can work on getting a consistent jump shot, and work on speeding up his rotations having him active on our roster would give us so much that the team lacks.
I still think Hairston (even though still raw) was still good enough to be on the team this year. Even at his current state he was IMO a far better player then Ime, but Ime knows the spurs system, while Hairston is still trying to figure it out.
I'm with you guys though. I'm going to go bald pulling my hair out watching the Spurs clang 3 after 3. Come on guys, when they arnt falling why do you continue to jack them up. When a teams offense consist of just chucking up a shot and praying it eventually goes in of course there will be huge droughts.
Spurs were short a productive big man, a back up point guard, and an athletic wing. They drafted George Hill (instead of Chalmers-more point guard ready), signed Gooden, but could not pull off a trade for an athletic wing.
We had a lot of holes. We are still short a reliable back up point guard and an athletic wing. Both will hurt us in the playoffs.
I kind of disagree. If hill had anywhere near the playing time Chalmers has he would be on par with him on development. We all saw what Hill could do with starter minutes when Tony was out earlier this season.
I think Fin will play a big role in the playoffs.
Herein lies the problem...
The team is great the way it is. The players that would turn things around are didn't the pine.
I think the consensus is that we're a Bruce Bowen-type of player away from being great...
The pisser is that he's actually part of the roster but sitting on the bench...
lol, we don't need anymore All-Star players to join th spurs, we have plenty of that already (Manu,Tony) What we need is a Healthy Duncan
Heck, we should be happy to have Tony Parker
I started to wonder if we shouldn't be more unhappy that the Salmons trade failed, compared to the Camby trade. (reportedly the Spurs offered Bruce and Ime for Salmons, maybe they should have tried harder)
Salmons is doing great in Chicago, he would fill most of our current needs.
on defense AND offense.
TIM as great as he's been over the years is starting to look alot like! "Yap you guessed it, Patrick Ewing w/ those supports on his knees".
ooookkkkkaaaaayyy maybe that was a little harsh. But for gosh sake grow a pair TIM and play with some fire and heart.
Its easy to look good on a sorry(weak) team. But not so easy to put up those same numbers on a good team with more talent. Point being on sucky teams you get more minutes.. Its the law of averages, still i would have liked to see what he could have brought to us.
Anything is more than what bruce is putting up.
In my opinion, the Spurs needed such a player about 5 years ago. That's how long this position has been an "achilles heel" for this team. There was plenty enough time for them to have already identified, cultivated and developed a younger player, who could have been in place at that position, by now.
Instead, they've preferred the cheap, aging, jump shooter route. While it's been a serviceable option, they've won 2 les despite the deficiency, it hasn't set them up for current or future success. Now look where they are. Stuck with a collection of guys who have declined to the point where the team is at an extreme disdavantage. Bruce could still be productive, yet he's older and can't get court time; Finley is playing too many minutes with diminshing returns and Ime is an undersized, athleticially-challenged, stop-gap option.
My issue is that Pop and RC have seemingly "stuck their heads in the sand" and acted as though the SF position wasn't a big priority for this team. There was simply no reason for them to have ignored the spot for as long as they have.
This has been discussed muchly in this forum for the past 3 or 4 years. There has been endless debate about who could be Bowen's replacement and the pursuit of the ever elusive "long three."
Now Bruce is on the verge of going away and his replacement is Michael Finley?
I am a Hairston fan but dude has to develop an outside shot. Gist is unknown how he will fit in and adjust to the NBA.
We can handle a step back defensively at the three if we can add a intimidating shot blocking five.
le should be "are the Spurs just a slashing sf who can play defense away from being great"...
and, perhaps, yes.
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