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I would rather trade Manu for proven young players...doubt we could get all that much in return though.
Disclaimer: This is a trade Manu thread.
Let me start by saying, I think Manu still has some good years left in him, and this injury is a minor set back. However, I dont think he's right for the Spurs anymore. I appreciate what he's done for this organization, and I even have one of his jerseys, he's one of my favorite players.
Unfortunately I dont think Manu is right for the Spurs anymore. He's a big contract, and someone we depend way to much on, and over the past two years he's been far too fragile to be that guy.
Just because he's of no use to the Spurs doesnt mean he has lost his value though. Young teams are in dire need of a veteran presence like Manu, and I'm sure he can still be effective on the court, where he has young athletic backups to give him a breather. The Spurs are just too old. Manu is the only athletic Wing we've got, and he's not getting any younger, he cant be THE solution for our wing situation. On a young team though, he can be part of the solution, providing experience, discipline, and talent, working with up and coming wings.
So down to business. The Wizards have openly said if they dont win the lottery they're going to trade their pick away. We wont have a great spot in the draft, so why not trade Manu to the Wizards for that pick if it's top 5? Having a young guy like Thabeet, or Monroe, whose athletic and eager to prove something would be great for this team, and even though it's not certain, they could make us a contender if they can produce right away. We still have Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, if we could get a young athletic guy with a lot of talent next to them I think we'd be in good position.
Obviously I know that this all rides on the talent that can be found in the top 5 of the draft, and this draft kind of sucks, but we might be pleasantly surprised.
I would rather trade Manu for proven young players...doubt we could get all that much in return though.
Last edited by mexicanjunior; 04-07-2009 at 04:52 PM.
that was deep dude, thanks
We really need to ing stop with the trade manu threads. Manu is our boy. People get injured off!
Damn, me for having an opinion. My bad bro
its all the same posters with new ids. Notice most of these chumps have < 20 posts.
Look, everyone has trade ideas, but you really have to think them through. Why would the Spurs trade Manu? For who? Do salaries work? Why would the other team want Manu? There is a lot of things to consider and trading Manu for a draft pick is not possible. There would have to be other players involved.
Not a big deal, but people around here are sensitive, especially after learning just yesterday that Manu is done for the year.
I feel like Im in the twilight zone. Is everyone here that re ed? This is a logical thought out post, not a TRADE MANU NOW thread. I've been a member here for a year.its all the same posters with new ids
I understand my idea may be wrong, but it's at least something to think about.
I'm not completely opposed to trading Manu, but for a pick in one of the worse drafts in years? NFW.
Don't sweat it man...alot of people are in "SUPPORT MANU OR GTFO!!! BELIEVE!!!" mode...sometimes reality doesn't set in...
It is not that well thought out because you cannot trade Manu for a draft pick to the Wizards. It legally cannot be done.
This topic has been beat to death. That is why people act like they do. Do not take offense to it. It is extremely hard to think up logical and legal trade moves. That goes double for Manu.
Exactly. Players like Thabeet or Harden don't excite me very much. If anything, Manu will be traded as an expiring contract to give a rebuilding team cap relief and give us a healthier option on the wing.
And people should stop jumping on posters that suggest this. If you don't think the Spurs' FO isn't considering it, you're just being naive. He's been out two consecutive seasons come playoff time, they may be ready to transition to another core of players around Duncan in his "twilight" years with Parker playing the more central role.
That's all I wanted to know. What else would the wizards have to give up to make this feasible? Nick young?
Manu does no good for a rebuilding team, unless they are just trying to acquire expiring contracts. Manu, basketball wise, only helps teams that are on the cusp of being contenders. Which is not very many.
I think it would happen around the deadline anyway, especially if he's having difficulties again. Really, giving him the first half of the season to test his ankle would be the best way to go.
This is a good site to test out trades (at least from a salary cap standpoint): http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Then you have to also piece together why both teams would want to do it.
It's ing april and you want a trade...Pathetic.
Yeah I know right... I'm re ed for thinking about the future of the franchise. Im just gonna go kill myself.
I knew Ginobili's ankle injury would get a thread like this.
It is not a big deal, he just picked a bad time.
Trade Manu for one guy from this week draft ? Wizards won`t trade for #1, so other trades are retarted. This draft is Blake Griffin and nothing else.
They are possible steal in late 1 rnd or early 2nd like Pitt`s Sam Young or Wayne Ellington. But Spurs give Thunder pick and then Thunder make this pick even better by winning series with Spurs.
Everything you ever wanted to know about the salary cap, luxury tax and all things related to the Collective Bargaining Agreement can be found here:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
As to your scenario, when two teams are both over the salary cap (like the Spurs and Wizards), the value of the contracts traded must be within 125% plus $100K. So with Manu making 10.7M next year, the Wizards would have to send between 8.4 and 13.5M in contracts back to the Spurs. Caron Butler would work, but why would the Wizards trade Butler and a top 5 draft pick to get Manu?
That's awesome, thanks for the contribution to the thread, I hope you use your clairvoyant powers more often, stop by anytime.
ty thread.
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