Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 38
  1. #1
    Im on a boat SpuronyourFace's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    602
    WASHINGTON – Congressional aides say President Barack Obama is seeking $83.4 billion to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan into the fall.
    Once approved by Congress, the money would bring the total amount for U.S. operations in Iraq and Afghanistan since Sept. 11, 2001 to almost $1 trillion.
    Budget office spokesman Tom Gavin says the White House will send an official request to Congress this afternoon.
    Obama was a harsh critic of the Iraq war as a candidate. He opposed a war funding bill in 2007, when former President George W. Bush increased the tempo of military operations.
    The upcoming request will include $75.5 billion for the military and more than $7 billion in foreign aid.
    Obama announced plans in February to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq on a 19-month timetable.



    Hmmmmmm???? Guess Obama is a war monger now, lol.

  2. #2
    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Post Count
    8,869
    he should leave them there for the next 19 months with no monetary aid? why do you hate the troops?

  3. #3
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    Ending the bad war and bringing focus back to the good war.


  4. #4
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Post Count
    21,547
    Wow!! Funding the war!!? Damn him!!

  5. #5
    Im on a boat SpuronyourFace's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    602
    he should leave them there for the next 19 months with no monetary aid? why do you hate the troops?
    Not hating the troops. I have 2 cousins over there. I was just pointing out a contradiction of how Obama could vote AGAINST funding while Bush was president, and now he is for funding. Just thought that was interesting contradiction on his part. Nothing more.

  6. #6
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    That's the difference between a protest vote from a junior senator and a budget proposal from a sitting president.

  7. #7
    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Post Count
    8,869
    or he could just pull the troops right now, and not gradually. That would be earn the OP's respect I'm sure.

  8. #8
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,976
    At the risk of sounding like a fiscal dinosaur, the supplemental nature of the appropriation is inappropriate.

    IMO it's a bad idea to keep wars *conceived of as being long*, off the books.

    Funding war exclusively through the supplemental process was a GWB novelty; now I guess it is a precedent.

  9. #9
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,976
    Continuity you can believe in.

  10. #10
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    At the risk of sounding like a fiscal dinosaur, the supplemental nature of the appropriation is inappropriate.

    IMO it's a bad idea to keep wars *conceived of as being long*, off the books.

    Funding war exclusively through the supplemental process was a GWB novelty; now I guess it is a precedent.
    I think the difference is the war spending is now being included in spending projections, etc.

  11. #11
    bandwagoner fans suck ducks's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Post Count
    74,377
    That's the difference between a protest vote from a junior senator and a budget proposal from a sitting president.
    difference to you he is not bush and he is a dem

  12. #12
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    difference to you he is not bush and he is a dem
    I would have been happy with Bush if he had opposed his own war as a junior senator.

  13. #13
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,976
    I think the difference is the war spending is now being included in spending projections, etc.
    I did not see that in the reporting today, but my reading was not exhaustive. Was it announced previously?

  14. #14
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    That's my understanding. I didn't read anything about planning to change the appropriations process. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the change was including all the numbers.

  15. #15
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,976
    Why do it as a supplemental if the budget projections take it into account? Or does the supplemental represent unanticipated costs? Hard to reckon, given the projected outlay for 2009 is $150 billion.

    God, this ing bailout makes war seem cheap. It wouldn't have seemed cheap to me a year ago.

  16. #16
    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    113,976
    Ending the bad war and bringing focus back to the good war.

    I don't care whether or not it's good if it's not winnable. Is it?

    Has winning in Afghanistan even been defined yet? I see the same strategic opacity as Iraq. How will we know if we've won?

  17. #17
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    1,476
    Obama repeatedly voted to fund the war in Iraq........It was a sore point between Hilary and he during the primaries Hilary pointed out that Obama had voted to fund the war in Iraq as many times as she had, and yet tried to say he didn't. The only senator to run for president who never voted to fund the war in Iraq was Ron Paul, but of course he's crazy.

  18. #18
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    I couldn't tell you what the written goal is. As far as fighting terraists, treating Afghanistan and the Pakistan frontier as one operational theater is a move in the right direction.

  19. #19
    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Post Count
    21,547
    Obama repeatedly voted to fund the war in Iraq........It was a sore point between Hilary and he during the primaries Hilary pointed out that Obama had voted to fund the war in Iraq as many times as she had, and yet tried to say he didn't. The only senator to run for president who never voted to fund the war in Iraq was Ron Paul, but of course he's crazy.
    He was funding the troops.


  20. #20
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    1,476
    Ending the bad war and bringing focus back to the good war.

    the obamanations found themselves a "good war"

  21. #21
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    the obamanations found themselves a "good war"
    It was always the good war compared to Iraq. You were just too stupid to notice.

  22. #22
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    1,476
    It was always the good war compared to Iraq. You were just too stupid to notice.

    Oh my god you called me ..stupid..I'm withering

  23. #23
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
    My Team
    Boston Celtics
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Post Count
    22,399
    Oh my god you called me ..stupid..I'm withering
    Hm... might want to think up a better comeback next time.

  24. #24
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    1,476
    Hm... might want to think up a better comeback next time.

    yeah something really intelligent like calling people who don't share your view...stupid

  25. #25
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,412
    I never really saw any significant opposition to military action in Afghanistan.

    If micca can direct us to evidence of it, I will retract my characterization in this particular case. Otherwise, it was a pretty stupid thing for him to say.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •