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    LOL nothing new ... Astros shutout yet again today 7-0 by the INCREDIBLE Pittsburgh Pirates!!!

    sons at the trade deadline they need to unload this team and rebuild .... trade EVERYONE but Berkman, Lee, Pence, and Oswalt for young minor league talent and start over.

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    What's the over/under for the number of games until Cecil Cooper gets fired?

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    In my opinion, no one is untouchable. Blow it up and start over. And you can't trade everyone but your best players. The rest of that team is a steaming heap of dog that nobody in their right mind would want.

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    In my opinion, no one is untouchable. Blow it up and start over. And you can't trade everyone but your best players. The rest of that team is a steaming heap of dog that nobody in their right mind would want.
    true to an extent, but you have to remember that Berkman, Lee, and Oswalt all have FULL no trade clauses in their contracts. Lee can only be traded after his 4th season in the deal which he is only in his 3rd ....

    Berkman and Oswalt aren't going anywhere and will finish their careers in an Astros uniform. you can bet on that..... Pence is the only "young" talent worth holding on to.

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    the Chokestros? in order to be considered chokers, dont you have to be good or actually have leads.....how can you choke when you are always down by 5+ runs game in and game out.

    I prefer to call my team the Lastros or Disastros

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    the Chokestros? in order to be considered chokers, dont you have to be good or actually have leads.....how can you choke when you are always down by 5+ runs game in and game out.

    I prefer to call my team the Lastros or Disastros
    I agree... calling the Astros chokers would be like calling people from Louisiana underachievers.

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    the Chokestros? in order to be considered chokers, dont you have to be good or actually have leads.....how can you choke when you are always down by 5+ runs game in and game out.

    I prefer to call my team the Lastros or Disastros
    I was wondering when those names would resurface.

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    true to an extent, but you have to remember that Berkman, Lee, and Oswalt all have FULL no trade clauses in their contracts. Lee can only be traded after his 4th season in the deal which he is only in his 3rd ....

    Berkman and Oswalt aren't going anywhere and will finish their careers in an Astros uniform. you can bet on that..... Pence is the only "young" talent worth holding on to.
    Yeah. I didn't forget about Lee's no-trade clause. However, a few more weeks like this and he'll be begging out. He's really the only thing the Astros have besides Pence to get young prospects. Maybe Valverde.

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    Berkman and Oswalt have to be traded. This team has no farm system. Come May or June they'll be happy to go to a team that's worth a crap.

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    Definitely disturbing given the amount invested in the roster.

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    Definitely disturbing given the amount invested in the roster.
    Should've invested in some undetectable HGH.

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    Berkman and Oswalt have to be traded. This team has no farm system. Come May or June they'll be happy to go to a team that's worth a crap.
    single A is stocked!

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    sons this thread needs to be bumped up after last night lol

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    Berkman and Oswalt have to be traded. This team has no farm system. Come May or June they'll be happy to go to a team that's worth a crap.
    neither of them can be traded. both have full no trade clauses ... the only way that would happen is if they wanted out.

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    Berkman and Oswalt have to be traded. This team has no farm system. Come May or June they'll be happy to go to a team that's worth a crap.
    I dont know about Oswalt....but I say trade Berkman, Tejada, and Lee....I dont want to get rid of Berkman, but we need to ac ulate some young talent.....we need young pitchers and positions players. We need to revamp our farm system. Of course, if also trading Oswalt helps us get some quality prospects....then let's do it.

    I think we can get about 3-4 quality prospects for Berkman.....3-4 for Oswalt....1-2 for Tejada....and 2-3 for Lee. So we would trade 4 players for 11-13 prospects.....hopefully 6-7 of those being pitchers.

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    we can't just trade Berkman and Lee though ... they have to ask to be let go since the have full no trade clauses.

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    neither of them can be traded. both have full no trade clauses ... the only way that would happen is if they wanted out.
    If we suck enough, maybe they will.

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    Mother er. At least the Reds should be worth 3 wins out of a 4 game home series. , 3 of 4 in Cincinnati. And why is it that the stros' best prospects (oxymoron, I know) consist of 17 different catchers (including Clemens' kid)?

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    It'd be one thing if ownership was just flat out cheap. Just watch, they'll get back when they deal Valverde later this season.

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    It'd be one thing if ownership was just flat out cheap. Just watch, they'll get back when they deal Valverde later this season.
    No . They ed up the Brad Lidge trade, although I was happy to see him go but Michael Bourne hasn't done . I don't care who they get rid of as long as they keep Berkman and Pence.

    The farm club is also very, very poor at the moment. Bogusevic, Chris Johnson and Jason Castro are really the only prospects that might be decent Major League players but other than that they are . Just pure .

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    We got a lead!!1 Nothing could possibly go wrong now.

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    2 RBI single by Tejada. then a poor baserunning job ends the inning.

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    The worst 5-9 team in the MLB.

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    That's nothing new. They were the worst 86 win team last season.

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    The Astros failed in their attempt to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory tonight. Oh well, 148 more chances this season.

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