Splitter: The Difference (TrueHoop)

[Yogi]

Splitter: The Difference
April 23, 2009 5:12 PM

If you're a Spurs fan, then you know your team will soon need some fresh talent. And if you're a pretty serious Spurs fan, then you'll know that your team has the rights to talented Brazilian big man Tiago Splitter. If you're even more serious though, you'll know that Splitter has a big deal with Spain's Tau Ceramica, and as the Spurs can only pay him rookie scale, Splitter may have a hard time affording a transition to the NBA.

Hence, the conundrum.

However, if you're a really really really serious Spurs fan, like Timothy Varner of 48 Minutes of , then you may something that most people don't know. (I bet some NBA agents and front office people don't know this.)

There's a provision in the Collective Bargaining Agreement that lets a team pay an imported player more than rookie scale if he has been drafted and playing professionally outside the NBA for at least three years.

Which would seem to imply that in the summer of 2010, the Spurs will be able to pay Splitter something approximating a market-value contract, assuming they have room under the cap. (At the moment, beyond 2010 the team only has contracts with Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, to go with team options on George Hill and Ian Mahinmi.)

Here's the provision of the CBA:

Section 2. Rookie Contracts for Later-Signed First Round Picks.
Except as provided in Section 3 below, a First Round Pick who does not sign with the Team that holds his draft rights for any portion of the three (3) Seasons following the NBA Draft in which he was selected (and who did not play intercollegiate basketball during such period) may enter into either (a) a Rookie Scale Contract in accordance with Section 1 above, or (b) if the Team has Room in excess of the applicable first-year Rookie Scale Amount, a Contract covering no fewer than three (3) Seasons that provides for Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses in the first Salary Cap Year up to the amount of the Team's Room and increases or decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in subsequent Salary Cap Years in accordance with Article VII, Section 5(c)(1).

Read Varner's entire post, where he further points out that Splitter's Spanish club has lost its sponsorship, which would seem to increase the chances that an infusion of cash, coupled with a cutting of payroll, might appeal.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...ifference.html

[Bender]

didn't we just have a big discussion about this very thing...

[Spursmania]

I think I recall it as well. I hope Spurs' FO can make this happen.

[timvp]

didn't we just have a big discussion about this very thing...

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123818

I personally think it would have been appropriate for TrueHoop to source Bruno for finding the information. That's a pretty huge find to go unsourced in that article. Don't have to mention ST but at least a hat tip to Bruno would have been nice

[rayray2k8]

Yeah, even timvp didnt know about this.
Looks Parker might get some help in the future.
Gist, Ian, Hill, Splitter, Mason.
That sounds like a roster to me.
By 2010, I expect manu to be bald or join the men's hair club.

[Kori Ellis]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123818

I personally think it would have been appropriate for TrueHoop to source Bruno for finding the information. That's a pretty huge find to go unsourced in that article. Don't have to mention ST but at least a hat tip to Bruno would have been nice

Yeah I agree. Tim (48MOH) is a good guy. If he could get Henry to edit that post that would be great. I know Bruno really doesn't want extra recognition or anything, but it's just a courtesy.

[DAF86]

Yeah, even timvp didnt know about this.
Looks Parker might get some help in the future.
Gist, Ian, Hill, Splitter, Mason.
That sounds like a roster to me.
By 2010, I expect manu to be bald or join the men's hair club.

Manu will be rocking the Zinedine Zidane look in 2010

[rayray2k8]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123818

I personally think it would have been appropriate for TrueHoop to source Bruno for finding the information. That's a pretty huge find to go unsourced in that article. Don't have to mention ST but at least a hat tip to Bruno would have been nice

Is that where they got their source from???

[Mel_13]

Yeah I agree. Tim is a good guy. If he could edit that post that would be great. I'm positive that he didn't know that until he read Bruno's post. I know Bruno really doesn't want extra recognition or anything, but it's just a courtesy.

To be fair, Varner specifically cites Bruno as his source on his blog, which is part of the Truehoop network. Abbott links to Varner's article and recommends reading the whole thing

[Kori Ellis]

To be fair, Varner specifically cites Bruno as his source on his blog, which is part of the Truehoop network. Abbott links to Varner's article and recommends reading the whole thing

Yeah I just edited my post to indicate that.

[Darthkiller]

how old is splitter now

[Mel_13]

how old is splitter now

dob: 1/1/85

[DAF86]

how old is splitter now

Doesn't That Photo in your sig go a little bit lower?

[timvp]

To be fair, Varner specifically cites Bruno as his source on his blog, which is part of the Truehoop network. Abbott links to Varner's article and recommends reading the whole thing

Varner didn't do anything wrong. He sourced Bruno twice and even went the extra mile to get it confirmed. Very good and useful article

I just think that if TrueHoop is going to write an article about an article, the original source deserves at least a a one-word mention. This was a huge revelation that no one had ever noticed. There's been dozens of articles about Splitter over the years and no one has ever mentioned this loophole. Even when the Spurs have talked about the Splitter situation they have never mentioned it.

I doubt Bruno cares about the attribution being lost at some point along the line but this was great info from a great poster -- so I'm willing to go to bat for him whether he wants it or not

[Blackjack]

Varner didn't do anything wrong. He sourced Bruno twice and even went the extra mile to get it confirmed. Very good and useful article

I just think that if TrueHoop is going to write an article about an article, the original source deserves at least a a one-word mention. This was a huge revelation that no one had ever noticed. There's been dozens of articles about Splitter over the years and no one has ever mentioned this loophole. Even when the Spurs have talked about the Splitter situation they have never mentioned it.

I doubt Bruno cares about the attribution being lost at some point along the line but this was great info from a great poster -- so I'm willing to go to bat for him whether he wants it or not

+1

Bruno

FTW

And yeah, I've yet to hear anyone in the Spurs' organization even hint to this being a possibility, so hopefully someone in the local media can pose this as a question.

I'd be interested in seeing/hearing the response, if nothing else.

[timvp]

I'd be interested in seeing/hearing the response, if nothing else.

If they interview RC and his reaction is "" ... then they should look into bringing Bruno on board full-time.

[Indazone]

but but but...Bouroussis will be Spurs Savior

All this could have been avoided, if you hadn't traded Scola away. But since you did, Splitter was supposed to come over and be the next great big for the Spurs. He can now come over for the same price as Scola provided your front office is willing to pay such a big fee for someone to come over and play with Duncan. Based on past history, I wouldn't hold my breathe.

Oh by the way, this is now and inexorably.....now a

SCOLA THREAD! lol

[Blackjack]

If they interview RC and his reaction is "" ... then they should look into bringing Bruno on board full-time.

Look into?

I'm thinking a pe ion is in order.

[tomtom]

Hmm very intriguing spurs would be set with some great young prospects if he can come, imagine gist, mahinmi, hill, splitter, hairston? at least the youth movement has finally arrived

[wisnub]

I like Spliter..he might be our next fundamental...but every time a great deal come spurs way..ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Even Gist end up in Europe....and Magette choose to keep loosing with GS....I think in Spurs world..WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING BIG FOR TRADE OR DRAFT TO HAPPEN, ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

[Kori Ellis]

but but but...Bouroussis will be Spurs Savior

All this could have been avoided, if you hadn't traded Scola away. But since you did, Splitter was supposed to come over and be the next great big for the Spurs. He can now come over for the same price as Scola provided your front office is willing to pay such a big fee for someone to come over and play with Duncan. Based on past history, I wouldn't hold my breathe.

Oh by the way, this is now and inexorably.....now a

SCOLA THREAD! lol

The Spurs paid Scola's money to Bonner. It's not like they weren't willing to pay someone. That someone just wasn't Scola

[Bruno]

Thanks to everybody.

To me, one thing I really like in ST is that it's a great source of infos. I'm convinced that ST is the greatest "database" about Spurs on the www. The reason, why there are so much infos, is because there are lot of people who feeds it.
Every time duncan228 posts an article, every time timvp, FromWayDowntown or another knowledgable BB poster highlight something has happened in a game, every time there is an informative post here, it makes ST "database" better and bigger. As a poster, I try to bring a little stone to the edifice
It's also damn nice that ST owners are Spurs fans and not a company, whose only goal is to make money. I find it unreal that Kori and LJ aren't even trying to cover the money they spend in ST. Big props to them and the Slovenian mafia.

If I've typed that, it isn't to do some asskissing. If someone has to be given as a source on TrueHoop, it's not me but SpursTalk. Personally, I'm not that upset by TrueHoop only linking 48MOH. It would have been nicer if the ST thread was linked but it's not like they have acted like the info comes from them.

And Tim Varner is a great guy. We exchange some mails about Spurs and he is always as nice as you can be.

[honestfool84]

Thanks to everybody.

To me, one thing I really like in ST is that it's a great source of infos. I'm convinced that ST is the greatest "database" about Spurs on the www. The reason, why there are so much infos, is because there are lot of people who feeds it.
Every time duncan228 posts an article, every time timvp, FromWayDowntown or another knowledgable BB poster highlight something has happened in a game, every time there is an informative post here, it makes ST "database" better and bigger. As a poster, I try to bring a little stone to the edifice
It's also damn nice that ST owners are Spurs fans and not a company, whose only goal is to make money. I find it unreal that Kori and LJ aren't even trying to cover the money they spend in ST. Big props to them and the Slovenian mafia.

If I've typed that, it isn't to do some asskissing. If someone has to be given as a source on TrueHoop, it's not me but SpursTalk. Personally, I'm not that upset by TrueHoop only linking 48MOH. It would have been nicer if the ST thread was linked but it's not like they have acted like the info comes from them.

And Tim Varner is a great guy. We exchange some mails about Spurs and he is always as nice as you can be.

i DON'T mean this to be rude, really..

but i always had the impression that you were born in 1992.

was that in your signature or something once?

i feel asking this. lol. :/

[Dingle Barry]

. I hadn't heard about this. Way to ing go Bruno!

[YODA]

Props to Bruno