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The problem was that Pop tried to reinvent the Spurs this year, with disastrous results.
Now we're left with a team that has another year of this junk to look forward to.
Last night's game went just as I expected. A humiliating home loss by a team that has been effectively reduced to two players. Everyone can figure out for themselves who those two are. The rest just...for lack of a better expression, SUCKED!
Hopefully this will finally force the Spurs management to gut the team and start fresh, even if it means a couple of lean years to get up to speed. Without elaborating too much right now, the following players need to go, no matter what:
Mason
Bonner
Thomas
Finley
Oberto
Bowen
Ginobili
All of these are either seriously over the hill (Thomas, Finley, Bowen) or lacking the right stuff to compete at the top level in the NBA (Mason, Bonner, Oberto). And then there is the overall pain in the ass Ginobili. The idiotic tango Spurs chose to play with his injuries was a factor that hastened the team's demise. Thank you Manu for your contributions but San Antonio has no need for your circus act any more.
And while I think that Pop has been a great coach, I think it is time to think moving him to the front office and find some fresh coaching talent who can motivate the team to become winners again. The Spurs overall lack of effort and intensity in this series was way more embarrassing than the exit.
Besides, there is plenty to do in the front office. The Spurs free agent game only went so far and now they are left with two top players, a good prospect (who did not get to play when it would have counted) and one or two supporting players. At the shape the Spurs find themselves in, there is no instant budding. In the best scenario, it will be a couple of years until the Spurs will be a serious contender again. But I much prefer that to the overachieving mediocrity that has been the Spurs trademark the last two years.
Still a Spurs fan. But reality has set in.
The problem was that Pop tried to reinvent the Spurs this year, with disastrous results.
Now we're left with a team that has another year of this junk to look forward to.
I guess Pop was not familiar with the old truth, "You cannot polish a turd." As evidenced by Bonner, Mason etc.
waive everyone including duncan and parker and club their legs till they break, fire every single person employed by the spurs organization, round up the entire FO and execute them, get their families and put them in internment camps, rename franchise and redesign everything, guillotine pop publically in alamo plaza, give all the players' pets antifreeze before they can escape, blow up atnt center then crop dust the ruins with herpes, start completely over from scratch rebuild a hemisphere arena downtown, hire me as the owner/gm/coach, ill hit the streets/gyms with some associates and round up some good prospect black guys to fill out our roster, start anew.
So, Vaughn is staying then?Last night's game went just as I expected. A humiliating home loss by a team that has been effectively reduced to two players. Everyone can figure out for themselves who those two are. The rest just...for lack of a better expression, SUCKED!
Hopefully this will finally force the Spurs management to gut the team and start fresh, even if it means a couple of lean years to get up to speed. Without elaborating too much right now, the following players need to go, no matter what:
Mason
Bonner
Thomas
Finley
Oberto
Bowen
Ginobili
All of these are either seriously over the hill (Thomas, Finley, Bowen) or lacking the right stuff to compete at the top level in the NBA (Mason, Bonner, Oberto). And then there is the overall pain in the ass Ginobili. The idiotic tango Spurs chose to play with his injuries was a factor that hastened the team's demise. Thank you Manu for your contributions but San Antonio has no need for your circus act any more.
And while I think that Pop has been a great coach, I think it is time to think moving him to the front office and find some fresh coaching talent who can motivate the team to become winners again. The Spurs overall lack of effort and intensity in this series was way more embarrassing than the exit.
Besides, there is plenty to do in the front office. The Spurs free agent game only went so far and now they are left with two top players, a good prospect (who did not get to play when it would have counted) and one or two supporting players. At the shape the Spurs find themselves in, there is no instant budding. In the best scenario, it will be a couple of years until the Spurs will be a serious contender again. But I much prefer that to the overachieving mediocrity that has been the Spurs trademark the last two years.
Still a Spurs fan. But reality has set in.
And if you expect the Spurs to overhaul more than half the roster, then you're out of your mind. Not gonna happen.
And BTW, Ginobili is not going anywhere.
Spurs really need to get a little bit younger, so a couple of moves and trades are necessary. But it's still too early for spurs to start an absolute rebuild. Duncan still has several good years to play while Tony Longoria is right in orgasm,it would be a big waste of Duncan's life to let Tim play on a lottery team like Thunders. Those 10 expiring contracts like Manu's and Bruce's are very attractive to those James chasers like Jersey and Knicks, so it is a good option to trade them before they expires. Manu&Bruce for Carter seems pretty good for both Nets and Spurs.
Rebuild the team around TP, give him some good shooters and big boys in the paint, Manu and TD are good for 20/25 minutes per game (no more).
No major overhaul needed, just a healthy Big 3 and maybe Gist and mahinmi will be pleasant revelations. And maybe SPurs finally get a long SF who can defend the perimeter.
The Spurs will probably do that after Tim retires... after 2012 basically...
What kind of surprises me is no one seems to mention the fact that we have many players contracts that expire at the end of next year. All I hear is that you can't trade these guys because no one will want them. Nothing is further from the truth. An expiring contract is as hot a commodity as an early second round pick in the NBA. Many good players have been traded for expiring contracts.
It actually has been said repeatedly. Look at the trade subforum.
Get us that 2nd "real" big man to clog the paint and get us rebounds; hopefully that can be Ian Mahinmi. Also an athletic SF would be nice like Trevor Ariza. After that weed out some of the old legs and give us some fresher legs.
In that case the Spurs are losers. Too much money tied to a worthless player. Past contributions mean nothing except in the empty heads of idiot fans.
God, I hope we will actually make some improvements this off season. I thought last year we made SOME improvements but after seeing this series, it was all for naught. Those guys who we thought played big for us during the season showed up for one game, game 2. The front office needs to work hard to improve this team. Timmy didn't take a pay cut for nothing.
Reevaluate your thinking there, hoss. There is no denying that if the Spurs had a healthy Ginobili this year, they would have been a serious threat in the West.
The FO seems to disagree with you. You still have time to jump off the bandwagon and go somewhere else...
funniest thing ive read on here in ahwhile
Your mother is a bandwagon, you moron. off if you've got nothing better to say.
Agree. Manu will be the weight that closes Duncans final years without a le if they hold on to him too long. His best days are behind him now. He is on the wrong side of 30 with a lot of wear and tear. Already the last two years they did not have him healthy when it counted.
If. If my uncle had wheels and pedals he'd be a bicycle. Ginobili is a burden for the team and nothing else. He won't be there when it counts and frankly he doesn't seem to to give a anyway. It'll be just one injury after another and a missed playoffs. The sooner he gets dumped, the better. He is too expensive to play the team Chihuahua.
Ifs are for losers.
Manu and mason stays....
Exactly. Thank you!
Exactly. Thank you!
You will find this board full of homers who want to keep any player that has had some past success just out of remembrances. Thats not any way to build a winner.
You little rant had me for a second, then you showed your complete and utter ignorance. So, you expect this team to dump MORE than half it's roster (even though most of them are still under contract) and replace them with who?? D-League rejects?? Just how do you expect the Spurs to fill out that many roster spots? Are they gonna fall from the sky? You do realize that most of those guys have another year left on their deals and if they cut them, the Spurs would have to eat their salaries.
And you want Pop out for some 'fresh coaching talent'. For all those ing idiots who want to run Pop out when things go bad, you should thank God you have a Hall of Fame coach like this on your team. NO ONE will step in here and be able to do what he's done.
This is the typical ing and moaning from SO-CALLEDSpurs fans who only wanna cheer when the team is winning. And by the way, you really showed that you're NOT a Spurs fan with your Ginobili hate. If you hate Ginobili...you hate the Spurs....period.
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