I'll let you guys know how it was when I get back, if my wife lets me on.
Note: I will comment on it from two angles... 'everyday viewer' watching the movie, and 'Star Trek geek' watching the movie.
yeah we needed another star trek thread
I just saw it and I thought it was quite decent. The music sucked though. Can't beat the original music by a long shot. I thought the special effects were great, Cpt. Kirk was spot on and so was Spock. Ofcourse, you can't beat Leonard Nemoy as Spock but I thought Quinto did a remarkable job of trying. Overall, I like where the franchise is going.
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TW your sig is hilarious. Just imagine that chick leaving her house and making one last look in the mirror and saying to herself "I look good"
Pretty damn good, I must say. As mentioned above, can't do better on Kirk, and Spock, Uhura and the rest were all wonderfully cast/acted.
I loved the in-jokes as well, the best of which belonged to the red shirt.
The only slow part was when Kirk and Spock were gearing up for their plan... apart from that, I thought it moved pretty quickly.
My wife, who's not much of a sci-fi fan, and has watched only 1 or 2 of the original shows, thought it was ok. She gave it a 7, I'd give it a 9.
2 thumbs up...
I am betting they make a sequel or 2...
i hate supporting a movie with Tyler Perry in it. but it was good
She probably thought she did look good, she had a guy hanging out with her all night long
I saw it on Imax tonight. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT! I was a little worried about this one... but over all it was well cast, well written, and well directed. Just wished they would have worked the ewoks in somewhere.
So I forgot an "s" and something else, big deal
I have to say though, Quinto as Spoke seems to be a good choice
if some random dude wearing a red shirt doesn't get killed in this movie, then I automatically give it two
When that little mechanic guy was running down the hallway, I turned to my friend and said, "Wonder if it's an Ewok..." lol
He does, and it's so obvious he will get killed that as soon as I saw him, my friends and I started laughing way too loudlyif some random dude wearing a red shirt doesn't get killed in this movie, then I automatically give it two
I saw it last night and I enjoyed it. I was way better than Wolverine. I was surprised that this Star Trek was so good and entertaining. The story in this Star Trek was clever and unique in my opinion. And the original music from the original series is played at the end of the movie during the credits.
It was good, not great. Not as good as Wrath of Khan, but definitely an upper-tier Trek movie in the class of First Contact, Undiscovered Country and Voyage Home (which I've never really liked but I have to give it its props in terms of appealing to a broader audience).
First, the bad:
- Nero and the Romulans are underwritten and don't get a lot of screen time. I understand and appreciate that they didn't want to bore me to tears for 4 hours and respect my time, unlike the makers of The Watchmen and The Dark Knight. Right at about 2 hours, the movie moves at a pretty brisk pace, and there's not a lot of fat in it. Almost every scene advances the story in some way. Still, it would've been nice to have a few more scenes with character moments to flesh out the villains.
- The final confrontation with Nero and the Romulans is where the film is the weakest and veers into standard Hollywood blockbuster fare. I've seen enough of these kind of sequences where it just ends up being about blowing up, and there's no dramatic tension. Trek has always been about the judicious use of action and special effects. In some ways this movie is a noisy spectacle.
- I think the drawback of the Origin Story is that it ends up feeling too short and the movie ends too soon, when you want to spend more time with these characters.
- Much has been made about the alternative timeline and the time travel aspect of the story, which I think is ultimately necessary if they want narrative freedom to explore these characters again and not be bound to what has already taken place in the original series and movies. There's one truly bad scene where this is explained exposition-wise, in such an awkward and clumsy way that it feels very meta and it's almost as if the actors are breaking the fourth wall. There is also one event in this movie that forever alters Star Trek continuity and is a profound change from what we have seen before. I won't say what it is, you'll just have to see for yourself. I still don't know how I feel about it.
The performances are all pretty good, it is an economic and efficient movie in moving the story along, it looks great cinematography-wise, etc. I think most of its flaws are in the format of the Origin Story itself. The main purpose of this movie was to have these characters on the Bridge of the Enterprise at the end. They did that. Hopefully the creative team behind it won't give us a bloated, pseudo-philosophical mess like Dark Knight for the sequel.
Honestly, I was kind of glad for that. I thought Nero wasn't well acted... but that could be because I hate Eric Bana in pretty much every movie.
Agreed. That was the only slow/out of place part, I think.
Origin stories always are seemingly like that though. Given the good length of the film, they got the characters down pat I'd say.
Agreed about the fourth wall thing, but I can KINDA see why they did it. American audiences can be dumb, plus a good majority might not know the Trek back story.
Thank goodness. Someone else who finds the Dark Knight pretentious, or in the words of Peter Griffin, "shallow and pedantic".
Findog, what are some other movies you like? Curious to see if they match up with ones I enjoy. If so, I'll have to hit you up for movie ideas.
Awesome movie.
I enjoy The Next Generation but have never been able to sit through the other versions.
I just feel like adventure stories always benefit from having a strong villain. Nero is a step up from "V'ger" and the Alien Probe, but other than that, he's kind of forgettable. I do love how they pitted Kirk and Spock against each other when they first meet at Starfleet Academy. I loved how their rivalry develops and they reluctanty learn to trust and work together after loathing each other from first sight.
When I look at movies like the Dark Knight and Watchmen, I can see that a lot of thought and effort went into it, and a lot of intelligence is displayed. But it's just not interesting to me, and both of those movies are loaded to the gills with fat and unnecessary footage that does nothing to advance the plot. The only thing that makes the Dark Knight watchable for me is Ledger's performance. They can still ponder their "deep themes" in two hours instead of three and a half.Thank goodness. Someone else who finds the Dark Knight pretentious, or in the words of Peter Griffin, "shallow and pedantic".
As for Watchmen, I know they wanted to include every important element from the novel, but in order to really do that, it would take 5-6 hours of footage. The original story was not meant to be digested in a two-hour sitting. It would've probably worked better as a tv miniseries, and it too wore its pretentiousness on its sleeve. Just a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. I'm glad that Abrams took a much different track with Trek and turned in a much more efficient movie, but the pace is fast enough that I think the movie could've benefited from a slower section or two to flesh out some of the characters more. As a Trek glutton, I could've sat for another half hour.
I'll just copy and paste from my facebook:Findog, what are some other movies you like? Curious to see if they match up with ones I enjoy. If so, I'll have to hit you up for movie ideas.
Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Hud, Chinatown, Tigerland, Idiocracy, Office Space, Big Lebowski, The Bourne Trilogy, North by Northwest, Usual Suspects, Anchorman, Goodfellas, No Country for Old Men, The Quiet American, Rushmore, LA Confidential, Donnie Darko, In the Company of Men, Touch of Evil, Manchurian Candidate, Full Metal Jacket, Bottle Rocket, Royal Tenenbaums, Far From Heaven, Punch Drunk Love, About A Boy, Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, DiG!, I Am Trying to Break Your Heart, The Way Of The Gun, I'm Not There, Election, High Fidelity, Slacker, Dazed And Confused, Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid, Serenity Firefly
SPOILER ALERTAgreed about the fourth wall thing, but I can KINDA see why they did it. American audiences can be dumb, plus a good majority might not know the Trek back story.
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The more I was thinking about the destruction of Vulcan, the more I realized that if they are going to have the narrative freedom to explore these characters again, then they need to have something different about this new universe and timeline. For instance, in this new timeline, Spock cannot die aboard the Enterprise fighting Khan; there is no Vulcan to take him to anymore to regenerate his body. So in this timeline they do something different than fight Khan.
This movie also bonds Spock and Kirk together in a new and interesting way, in that they both lose a parent to Nero. Otherwise, the only thing Nero has altered is Kirk's childhood by killing his father.
I went yesterday afternoon. It was a good movie but I was bummed at the time line and everything. And I have heard about all this "parallel universe" and all that but it's like "ok the three TV years and six movies feature this crew is now just nothing and that's not right.
That was the one thing that bugged me. Other than that, I enjoyed the new actors playing the legendary roles, although the one playing Chekov, over did it in my opinion.
The biggest problem I had with it was the age of the characters. It doesn't match the age differences in the original Star Trek. I can deal with the alternate lime line, but you would think it should have been corrected to keep continuity.
Let's see. Kirk was suppose to be in his mid 30's, Bones and Scotty, late 40's early 50's?
Other wise, great flick.
It wasn't actually that far off. Kirk was probably early 20's in this flick. Spock doesn't age like humans, so who knows how old he was. Probably 30's or so. And McCoy didn't look like he was 20... he talked about a divorce as if he'd be around a bit. I'd say he was about mid-30's. And Chekhov and Sulu were both pretty young.
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