Raptors are interested in a package deal that would involve Chris Bosh

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...e&type=fantasy

Carlos Boozer: On the Way Out?


Update: Boozer has been telling confidants that he’s either going to Detroit or New Jersey, the New York Post reports.

Recommendation: Boozer is expected to opt out of his contract with the Jazz by the end of June and will become one of the more sought-after free agents in the market. It was first thought Boozer was interested in going to Miami, but the Pistons are emerging as the likely destination. However, the New York Daily News reports the Raptors are interested in a package deal that would involve Chris Bosh(notes).

[Ice009]

Why would Boozer want to play for Detroit? Is Rasheed coming back?

[lurker23]

Why would the Raptors trade Bosh for a less talented Boozer?

If you are going to trade an all star you need to trade equal value. And how would this trade work? Sign and trade? Or would Boozer not opt out and just spend his contract year in Toronto?

Either way I think Bosh will be out of Canada next year.

If the Raptors are convinced that Bosh is gone in 2010 either way, then they'd rather have Boozer for 6 years than Bosh for 1 year.

Boozer would likely opt out, then use his Bird Rights in a sign and trade to get him an extra year on his contract.

Detroit is the only team other than the Jazz who would be able to pay Boozer max money and also be a contender. However, from what I know of Boozer, if a sign and trade doesn't materialize and the Detroit offer isn't max, I would expect him to sign with a non-contender who can show him the money.

[TheDarkSide.]

soooooo...what does this mean for the spurs?

[TDMVPDPOY]

question wtf would boozer wanna play in toronto anyway if that team is going nowhere with its fkn euro scrubs

money is money, but he could get that money from another team...

[spursfaninla]

nba forum?

[ducks]

I package manu oberto bowen picks
for bosh and see if they take him
heck maybe even mason
hill,tp and duncan would be the only untouchables to get bosh
and who cares if bosh leaves
spurs would have their big shot next year to win le
then if they won bosh would want to stay

[benefactor]

I package manu oberto bowen picks
for bosh and see if they take him

Ahh...the ulterior motive for making the thread is revealed.

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DWill-Sloan-Bosh sounds scary

[montgod]

DWill-Sloan-Bosh sounds scary

Except for the fact that Bosh chokes in the playoffs just as well as Boozer did.

[johnnyblues]

I package manu oberto bowen picks

I'd do this in a heartbeat.

[samikeyp]

I'd do this in a heartbeat.

Yes and send the Red Rocket back too!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

[healthy] Manu in the Raptor's system would be scary to go up against. People don't know just how good a scorer Manu is (Of course we do, just not everyone else). If manu were traded for Bosh that would make him option 1 on their offense and Manu could come close to a scoring le.

Don't think he'd get close to a scoring le, but I agree that Manu, as a first option, would generate sick stats.Then more people would appreciate him.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It was only two years ago when Manu put up a ton of nice numbers. If Manu were to get 20 to 30 shots he could average arond 25 to 30 and have several 40 or 50 point games.

True, but his style is such that he wouldn't average too many minutes, even as 1st option, and thus wouldn't average as many shots per game as LBJ, Kobe or Wade. I'd guess his assists and especially steals numbers would be great in the Raptors system.

Anyway though, wouldn't want to see him leave.

[rascal]

True, but his style is such that he wouldn't average too many minutes, even as 1st option, and thus wouldn't average as many shots per game as LBJ, Kobe or Wade. I'd guess his assists and especially steals numbers would be great in the Raptors system.

Anyway though, wouldn't want to see him leave.

Manu is not on the same level talent wise as Kobe, James or Wade. Not even close. He is not consistent enough and has too many off nights to average big numbers as the top scorers in the league.

[ducks]

It was only two years ago when Manu put up a ton of nice numbers. If Manu were to get 20 to 30 shots he could average arond 25 to 30 and have several 40 or 50 point games.

he would last 10 games if he shot 30 shots a game before getting hurt

[rascal]

The Lakers have more of a chance to get Bosh than the Spurs do.
It would be more likely that the Lakers make a trade to land Bosh than the Spurs.

The spurs front office don't make deals that land stars.

[DPG21920]

Manu is not on the same level talent wise as Kobe, James or Wade. Not even close. He is not consistent enough and has too many off nights to average big numbers as the top scorers in the league.

This is correct. Manu is a very talented player, but he has far too many 8 point, 4 point, 10 point nights to be in the same scoring class as Kobe, Wade or Lebron.

His per minute stats are not accurate because he truly could not play that many minutes, whereas Kobe, Wade and Lebron all play closer to their per 48 minute mark.

[rascal]

This is correct. Manu is a very talented player, but he has far too many 8 point, 4 point, 10 point nights to be in the same scoring class as Kobe, Wade or Lebron.

His per minute stats are not accurate because he truly could not play that many minutes, whereas Kobe, Wade and Lebron all play closer to their per 48 minute mark.

I don't pay any attention to per stats, those are not real stats but based on ifs (if a player were to play the entire game). There are backups and end of the bench players with impressive per stats that are meaningless in reality because they won't be effective if given the added minutes.

[DPG21920]

I don't pay any attention to per stats, those are not real stats but based on ifs (if a player were to play the entire game). There are backups and end of the bench players with impressive per stats that are meaningless in reality because they won't be effective if given the added minutes.

True in some cases, not in all. Manu you can clearly tell would never reach his per 48 numbers. Kobe and Lebron and Wade are more accurate because they play closer to 48 minutes and at a consistent high level.

The stats are useful but by no means the only indicator of performance.

[Phenomanul]

The Manu haters don't know how to value efficiency....

[rascal]

The Manu haters don't know how to value efficiency....

Your more efficient if you can get on the court and play.

[DPG21920]

In a way I agree, but then again Manu is either the second or third option on nights with the Spurs. When Manu becomes the first option for the Spurs he puts up rediculous numbers. If Kobe were the second to third option he might put up Manu numbers, but he is the star in his system.

Those 8 point nights are most likely nights when Tim was option number 1 (as he almost always is) and Tony was option number 2. As the point guard Tony really has the power to say if Manu is going to have a chance to take over.

If Manu and Wade were to switch places the numbers would switch as well. At least that is my opinion.

Maybe, but I doubt it. You are confusing the cause and effect imo. Manu is the third option and Kobe and Wade and Lebron are the first because of abilities. If those guys were paired with Duncan & Parker instead of Manu, they would not be the third option.

[ducks]

manu might be able to put up 20 conistently if first or second option

I think pop swtiched the big three at times to try to keep them fresher
also depends on matchups

[ducks]

Maybe, but I doubt it. You are confusing the cause and effect imo. Manu is the third option and Kobe and Wade and Lebron are the first because of abilities. If those guys were paired with Duncan & Parker instead of Manu, they would not be the third option.

duncan would be the first option
establish inside first then james