Analysts: Military Draft Needed Within Year

[Nbadan]

Bob Dart
Cox News Service
Mar. 30, 2005 03:24 PM

WASHINGTON -

If American forces aren't pulling out of Iraq in a year, a draft will be needed to meet manpower requirements, military analysts warned Wednesday.

With recruitment lagging and no end in sight for U.S. forces in Iraq, the "breaking point" for the nation's all-volunteer military will be mid-2006, agreed Lawrence Korb, a draft opponent and assistant defense secretary in the Reagan administration, and Phillip Carter, a conscription advocate and former Army captain.

"America's all-volunteer military simply cannot deploy and sustain enough troops to succeed in places like Iraq while still deterring threats elsewhere in the world," Carter concluded in the March issue of "Washington Monthly." advertisement

Korb is a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank, and a senior adviser to the Center for Defense Information. Carter is attorney who writes on military affairs for Slate.com and other media. They debated at a symposium on the draft Wednesday.

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Here is a link to the Washington Monthly, The Case for the Draft, in which the authors, including Carter, propose national service with choice of civilian or military, with a lottery somehow involved. Non-compliance will be punished by being refused admittance to college and Universities! Very strange article.

[Nbadan]

Today is a national call to action day for the growing anti-draft movement..

March 31 National call to action.
No Draft, No Way!

On March 31, the Selective Service System (SSS) will report to President Bush that it is ready to implement the draft within 75 days. Right now, the SSS is staffing local draft boards, training volunteer registrars to work on high school and college campuses, and streamlining its induction process. They have also gained access to the Department of Education's computer files, to ensure maximum registration.

It is clear that the Bush Administration is preparing for a draft. They are desperate for new soldiers to continue the occupation of Iraq and to prepare for new wars against Iran, Syria, and elsewhere.

At the same time that Bush is looking to youth to supply cannon fodder for his wars, he is busy cutting financial aid and slashing social programs. The same young people that Bush wants to use to fight his wars are finding it harder to pay for their education, find jobs that pay a living wage, or obtain basic necessities, like health care or affordable housing.

It is time for young people, who are already under attack from the Bush Administration, to take a stand.On March 31, the same day that the Selective Service System is reporting that the draft is ready to go, youth all over the country will report that they will refuse to go.

Local No Draft, No Way organizers and other anti-draft activists are planning protests, walkouts, and direct action at recruiting centers, selective service offices, and other sites. We call upon students, youth, and antiwar activists to organize local actions on March 31 to say "No Draft, No Way!"

No Draft, No Way!!

[desflood]

A senior fellow for a liberal think tank! There's an unbiased opinion! And they have the gall to accuse conservatives of using scare tactics.
That's all this is, you know. A big scare tactic designed to turn people against the Bush administration. It'll work on some. But those of us with an IQ over 75 will still know better, and scorn you.

[Nbadan]

That's what you said about the WMD thing, and the Saddam-Al Queda connections thing, and the torture being just-a-few-bad-apples thing, the growing Iraqi insurgency thing from 2000 dead-enders to 20-50,000 insurgents..and on..and on and on...

[Useruser666]

And your still wrong about all of those things Dan!

Dan 6 months ago: "There's going to be a draft in six months!"

Dan 3 months ago: "There's going to be a draft in 6 months!"

Dan 1 month ago: "There's going to be a draft in six months!"

Dan today: "There's going to be a draft in a year!"

At least you are setting your predictions further in the future so you don't have to change them as often.

[3rdCoast]

It wont happen.

[knownalien]

this is no scare tactic. the fact is recruitment numbers are low and retention is low and Bush's wars are many (esp. the ones he dreams of starting). the "axis of evil" knows that unless they see a draft here in the USA they know there won't be invaded. we can barely handle Iraq as it is.

[3rdCoast]

wont happen. isnt the US gonna be pulling out of Iraq soon anyways?

[knownalien]

wont happen. isnt the US gonna be pulling out of Iraq soon anyways?

well, it depends on what you really believe. Since we are there, IMHO, to protect the oil then we are there for some time. Oh, and you should probably know that we have built several permanent bases there.

[desflood]

That's what you said about the WMD thing, and the Saddam-Al Queda connections thing, and the torture being just-a-few-bad-apples thing, the growing Iraqi insurgency thing from 2000 dead-enders to 20-50,000 insurgents..and on..and on and on...

As I've posted before, there will never be a draft simply for the reason that whomever puts it into effect will be committing political suicide. If there is one thing those people love, it's power. You don't really think they'll knowingly hang themselves on this issue, do you?

[3rdCoast]

No one wants a draft. If Bush allows a draft,then the republicans will not win an election again, becasuse then the republican voters will be pissed as they democrats already are. It doesnt make sense. Bush will just take out the entire country(innocent and all) before he allows a draft.

[desflood]

That's what you said about the WMD thing, and the Saddam-Al Queda connections thing, and the torture being just-a-few-bad-apples thing, the growing Iraqi insurgency thing from 2000 dead-enders to 20-50,000 insurgents..and on..and on and on...

Bin Laden Al Queda and 9-11 Iraq Connection

Back to Warriors For Truth News

Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, & the 9-11 hijackers received assistance from Iraq.


Bill Clinton declared in Executive Order 13129 of July 4, 1999: I, William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of the Taliban in Afghanistan, in allowing territory under its control in Afghanistan to be used as a safe haven and base of operations for Usama Bin Laden and the al-Qaeda (sic) organization who have committed and threaten to continue to commit acts of violence against the United States and its nationals, cons ute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the U.S., and hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

On June 30, 2001 President George W. Bush continued the same Executive Order from Bill Clinton, using nearly identical language in a notice repeated here:

23. On information and belief, Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and the hijackers also received material support and assistance from Iraq, by and through its officials, agents, and/or employees, to carry out terrorist attacks on the United States, including the September 11, 2001 attacks.

[desflood]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilit...78&R=798D1B52B

For you, Dan. Pages and pages of intelligence and informational memos PROVING the link between Iraq and AL Queda.

[desflood]

That's what you said about the WMD thing, and the Saddam-Al Queda connections thing, and the torture being just-a-few-bad-apples thing, the growing Iraqi insurgency thing from 2000 dead-enders to 20-50,000 insurgents..and on..and on and on...

January 05, 2004
Senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq’s WMD located in three Syrian sites
The latest from DEBKAfile about the movement of Iraqi WMDs into Syria:

Nizar Najoef, a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper "Di Telegraaf," that he knows the three sites where Iraq's WMD are kept. The storage places are:
1. Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.

2. The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian airforce camp. Vital parts of Iraq's WMD are stored there.

3. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of the city Homs.

Najoef writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.

In February 2003, a month before America's invasion in Iraq, DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly were the only media to report the movement of Iraqi WMD, the efforts to bring them from Iraq to Syria, and the personal involvement of Bashar Assad and his family in the operation.

Najoef, who has won prizes for journalistic integrity, says he wrote his letter because he has terminal cancer.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I love this, Dan comes along every other month citing some liberal whackjob as saying there's going to be a draft, and it never comes.

There's only two relevant matters on this:

1. The Iraqis are moving forward with their future, and even the Sunnis are working with the Shiites and Kurds. In short, it's only a matter of time before we begin rotating more troops home and sending less back.

2. Whichever party controlling Congress and the White House at the time of the draft will never have another candidate elected. EVER. In short, it won't happen.

[Clandestino]

will you be drafted dan?

[knownalien]

I love this, Dan comes along every other month citing some liberal whackjob as saying there's going to be a draft, and it never comes.

There's only two relevant matters on this:

1. The Iraqis are moving forward with their future, and even the Sunnis are working with the Shiites and Kurds. In short, it's only a matter of time before we begin rotating more troops home and sending less back.

2. Whichever party controlling Congress and the White House at the time of the draft will never have another candidate elected. EVER. In short, it won't happen.

what you say holds true ONLY if we do not enter into any more wars.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So what, pray tell, do you want us to do should say NK go into SK, or China go into Taiwan?

Run away? Your statement only holds true if the US is acting pre-emptively. If someone attacks our ass, we probably still won't need a draft because just like after 9/11 people would be lining up to go kick someone's ass.

[knownalien]

So what, pray tell, do you want us to do should say NK go into SK, or China go into Taiwan?

the difference here is that in such a situation the USA wouldn't have to go in that ALONE. There would be no false claims made to the UN. The whole world would witness the invasion and likely line up to help out. BUT, you are talking super powers now. The USA alone couldn't stand up to NK, and SK(our friends Aggie. . , but whatever), or esp. China. We have been pampered into thinking our DU weaponry can defeat any enemy. It is false.

Run away? Your statement only holds true if the US is acting pre-emptively. If someone attacks our ass, we probably still won't need a draft because just like after 9/11 people would be lining up to go kick someone's ass.

well, who is supposed to attack us and how? If any other "terrorist" group does something to our country, where in the do we invade?? I'll answer your question: doesn't matter. We'll use anther attack on our soil to take away even more rights of the USA citizens AND we'll just invade the next big oil deposit. Right now Iran is the most likely scenario. Trouble is, that won't be a pushover like Iraq was. Most people don't "really" know how we defeated Sadamm.

[Guru of Nothing]

will you be drafted dan?

[jack handey] Wouldn't it sweet if Dan was drafted. Then he could tell everyone, "See, I told you!"[/jack handey]

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Where did I say anything about SK? Just said it'd be NK invading them.

As for the next attack, it will be Syria. Our special forces will covertly deal with Iran, but we won't invade, we'll topple it from within.

Syria on the other hand, with their links to Saddam (and probable hiding space of his military goodies), not to mention their allowing attacks to come into Iraq from their land, deserve whatever ass whipping we could and would put on them.

[Nbadan]

1. The Iraqis are moving forward with their future, and even the Sunnis are working with the Shiites and Kurds. In short, it's only a matter of time before we begin rotating more troops home and sending less back.

The Shiites and Kurds can't even agree amongst themselves on the breakdown of their government much less to what degree there should be Sunni involvement. We are three months removed from the election and Iraq still has no President and Prime Minister. Turns out this democracy stuff is alot tougher implement than anyone thought. Iraq continues to be a dangerous place for civilians, and has become a breeding ground for international terrorists.

Let's not even talk about those 12 permenant bases that the U.S. is building in Iraq. We may eventually lebanonize Iraq, pull our troops behind fort-type structures for their protection, but we aren't leaving anytime soon.

[Clandestino]

The Shiites and Kurds can't even agree amongst themselves on the breakdown of their government much less to what degree there should be Sunni involvement. We are three months removed from the election and Iraq still has no President and Prime Minister. Turns out this democracy stuff is alot tougher implement than anyone thought. Iraq continues to be a dangerous place for civilians, and has become a breeding ground for international terrorists.

Let's not even talk about those 12 permenant bases that the U.S. is building in Iraq. We may eventually lebanonize Iraq, pull our troops behind fort-type structures for their protection, but we aren't leaving anytime soon.

nobody ever said a democracy was an easy thing... look at how long other countries have taken to have stable democracies...

and it took us 10 years to leave bosnia, it will take a long time to leave iraq too... the international community needs to step up.

[knownalien]

Where did I say anything about SK? Just said it'd be NK invading them.

my bad. sorry.

[knownalien]

The Shiites and Kurds can't even agree amongst themselves on the breakdown of their government much less to what degree there should be Sunni involvement. We are three months removed from the election and Iraq still has no President and Prime Minister. Turns out this democracy stuff is alot tougher implement than anyone thought. Iraq continues to be a dangerous place for civilians, and has become a breeding ground for international terrorists.

Let's not even talk about those 12 permenant bases that the U.S. is building in Iraq. We may eventually lebanonize Iraq, pull our troops behind fort-type structures for their protection, but we aren't leaving anytime soon.

not only this, but whole religious groups boycotted the election!! and their "election" was just as stinky as our last one. I think it's awesome when we can put a CIA operative in power and then have an election for him . . . like we really wanted "democracy" to win out over there. Look, everyone was running on a platform of getting us out!! That's the first damn time half of America and all of Iraq have agreed! Let Halliburton defend their own arses over there alone!