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I think this trade makes it more likely that Manu stays. RJ isn't the third option on a championship team, but if he's your 4th best player, then you've got a chance.
If all reigns true and as of 10 minutes ago, there is still a "No Comment" from Spurs FO.
An educated guess is that "no comment" is code for Ink isn't dry and let's not jinx this, press release to follow.
Obviously, Spurs wouldn't make this trade unless they had someone in mind for a big to replace Thomas/Oberto.
So a few ways to look at it....
Finley opts-in, and is traded for a big man with perhaps a sign and trade with Udoka. (Oklahoma City)
Gooden is toast. Will not be a Spur next year.
Perhaps move Manu for a Camby/Wallace type person. If you dont think you are going to resign at the heavy $10mil price tag and you just got a healthier 15ppg guy in Jefferson why not?
Keep in mind that Ian is not healthy, so either another trade is in the midst, or Tiago Splitter is coming over next year.
I think this trade makes it more likely that Manu stays. RJ isn't the third option on a championship team, but if he's your 4th best player, then you've got a chance.
I don't necessarily think Gooden is gone.
This trade makes it more likely Manu is kept, I think. And it also lengthens his career because he won't have to play major minutes in the regular season.
Bucks are going to cut Oberto/Bowen. The Spurs will probably look around for other bigs, dangling Mason/Bonner in a trade package. If they get nothing, they'll pick up a vet on the cheap and/or consider bringing Oberto back.
That's what I'm wondering right now.
We traded our 2 centers and we're left with just Ian.
Another big on the way? (Please be splitter)
Believe in R.C and
Yeah this solidifies Ginobili staying.
Putting a guy like Jefferson next to Ginobili gives the Spurs so much offensive and defensive possibilities, its making Pop squirm.
I think the MLE and the LLE and trades will be used.
Mason and Bonner with their ending contracts are obviously very appealable.
I don't think we're done dealing at all. Hopefully Manu stays though.We're headed stright into lux tax territory, deep into it. Don't know if it's realistic to expect the Spurs to pay it in this economy.
But who knows lol maybe next thing we hear is that Spurs are ready to give $3mil for a 1st round pick.
JMO, but I can't see the Spurs dumping Manu now that they've got an insurance policy for him in case he gets hurt. I think they'll end up keeping Manu and using the MLE on a big. That's a big luxury tax hit for the Spurs to take, but I didn't think they'd take on a contract like RJ's without sending Manu's out. The Spurs may lose money the next couple of years, but once Duncan hangs it up they're going to suck anyways, so they can look to turn some profits then to make up for the losses now.
The only reason this trade was made, and the more than significant salary was taken on by Holt, was to give the Big 3 enough help to make another run at a le.
Manu is going nowhere, unless this team goes into the tank and the Spurs have no intention on re-signing him next year.
This trade is perfect for Manu. Takes some of the pressure off of him in the regular season but still keeps him as a very important piece come winning time in the playoffs.
There's no way in you trade Manu now. Prior to the Jefferson trade, there were a few scenarios that made trade. Now? No way.
I agree. This should help the big 3 tremendously.
I hope Mason isn't part of a trade package. If Finley and Bowen come back we've got some great depth at SG/SF.
I can actually see Manu starting now, if RJ can bring scoring off the bench.
Timvp, do you expect us to pay the luxury tax this year, especially if we use the MLE or a portion of it as well to get the much needed frontcount help we need? We'd be considerably above the threshold.
Jefferson will be the starting small forward for barring injury the next 5 years.
He's only 29.
The Spurs will probably not pay the lux tax ... or will try as hard as possible to get under it.
Unless Holt promised Duncan to pay the lux tax if needed if Duncan agreed to take less money in his last contract.
RJ will be starting. Manu off the bench and we can afford to limit his minutes better.
$14 million is NOT coming off the bench. Haha, why would you bring your best SF off the bench? If all goes well, the Spurs will have Jefferson starting at SF for a few years to come.
I would not be surprised at all to see another trade before or during, even after the draft. The Spurs obviously have a plan to replace the bigs they just lost. Something MUST be in the works. this is getting good.
Pop has been reluctant to start all their top players, because it leaves the bench thin scoring wise. Before RJ came around, Manu was pretty much the only option. Now he has a choice.
Jefferson will be the starting small forward for barring injury the next 5 years.
He's only 29.
The only way to round out the team with decent bigs to win a championship would be to go a bit over the luxury tax.
I'm good with that too.
I think you start Jefferson and Manu next year. Maybe start Mason over Manu but probably not.
Starting Manu will allow him to not carry too much load during the regular season.
Yeah I understand and agree.
But I bet Manu comes off the bench is a gaurantee this year so that they can save him and keep him fresh.
I don't disagree with your opinion. But I actually think Pop has been trying to get Manu to start for a few seasons now, but the lack of production from Hedo or Finley off the bench is what has kept him putting Manu back in the bench.
I think he's got a realistic choice now.
I don't see the Spurs spending their MLE. That would push the committed salary over $75 million. The only way I see them spending it is if they can salary dump two of Bonner, Mason, and Finley (or one and Finley retires).
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