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Not even close.
Enough to trade for a quality big man like Camby? Anyone else?
Before you guys flip out that Manu can't play 40 minutes at SG, we will always have option there with Hill, Finley, FA, or Draft.
Not even close.
They were willling to trade Camby for Mike Miller. And Ric Bucher stated a week ago they were on the verge of giving him to the Thunder for nothing. It is possible.
Don't forget, it is the Clippers and Donald Sterling we're talking about. As well as Mike Dunleavy. They make a lot of head scratching moves, so it is not out of the realm of possibilities.
If Finley opts to stay, then you have $9 mil to trade and can conceivably take back a $10 mil salary by dealing Bonner, Mason, and Finley. If the Spurs find a no-brainer deal like the Jefferson one, sure. Mainly I'd be hesitant to move Mason unless it improves the team. Free agency should be used to address the bigman rotation.
Mike Miller is a better player than Roger Mason.
That being said, if the Clippers are willing to give us Camby for Mason/Bonner/Williams, I'm 100% in favor of it.
Finley should NEVER play 2 guard. He just can't do it anymore for anything other than spot duty. Might find a gem in the draft, but not likely even anything serviceable for this coming season.
As far as FA goes, we're probably looking at Hairston, Williams, or a long-in-the-tooth-vet-min player to be named later for filling what wing spots are left. The question is do you trust either of thos options realizing that Manu should not play more than 25-30 minutes a game, and Hill will likely get no more than 5-10 minutes at 2, if that (aka you need somewhere around 10-15 minutes, not including any empty space at 3).
I wouldn't trade either Bonner or Mason for Camby, that guy's a joke.
Bonner and Mason will be our best 3 point shooters next year, we will need them.
Not by much. Mason had a better year last year if you take last year in consideration. Not to mention I like how you ignored how I said Ric Bucher stated via Twitter that Clippers were willing to trade Camby to the Thunder for nothing.
I want to keep Mason.
I like Bonner too. But would part with him if the the right offer was made.
I want to give Mason more time with us though.
I'm not sure that a trade is where we need to go to find a big, unless it's someone that is better, and healthier than Camby A couple of years ago, I would have wanted Camby. Today, not so much.
I think using the LLE and MLE to get a big is our best option.
Any other trades we can pull with those two?
Getting rid of dead weight. (Bonner)
Mason becomes trade bait at this point and as well as Finely if he picks up
his option...
Looking at the stats, they are very similar players.
Mike Miller Roger Mason
32 min 30 min
10 ppg 12 ppg
48% FG 43% FG
38% 3p 42% 3p
73% FT 89% FT
7 RPG 3 RGP
5 APG 2 APG
2 TO 1 TO
Clippers were willing to trade Camby for Mike Miller straight up(Miller has an expiring contract). Clippers first offered the Twolves Kaman for Miller and Twolves were more than willing to get the trade done. When that happened Clippers countered with Camby instead and the Twolves then turned their attention to the Wizards deal. That being said, Clippers need two guard help and Mason would provide that and help Eric Gordon out at the two spot. Mason had a better year last year than Miller and they both have expiring contracts. It was also stated by Ric Bucher that Camby was close to being traded to the Thunder for nothing a week ago.
All that being considered, I believe Mason+ Bonner + Marcus Williams could bring Camby to SA. IMO
Miller's stats last year are a poor indication because Kevin McHale is a dumbass and didn't know how to use him. Miller's still a guy capable of putting up 16+ ppg.
Do the LLE and MLE count against the luxury tax?
probably no bench, that's what it'll get us.
The danger in continuing to package a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 player is that it a) takes a huge hit on quality depth and b) stacks big salaries on 5 or 6 players with the rest of the squad around the league minimum. The spurs are not going to go this route.
Look for the rights to a foreigner, draft pics, etc. and maybe one player to be involved in a trade. You could maybe trade a bonner and the 37th pick for a late first rounder. Or perhaps a Splitter and 2nd rounder for late first.
Only if we use them.
Finley & Bonner & Williams for Camby
Manu diesn't need to play 40 minutes no one does unless they are on a bad team and that's the only chance they have at winnning. Manu has a quality rotation guy in the mix with Mason and you can put Hill (possibly Bowen) in too so 25-30 reg. season and 30+ in playoffs is all Manu needs if that's not enough the team we have has other problems.
Bonner and Mason will probably get you a LOL!!!!!! for a quality big man. Who knows maybe there's another Memphis out there.
Mason has to stay
He is ing clutch
yeah, I don't know if I would let Mason go. Mason + Hill make our backcourt one of the deepest in the NBA.
We could resign Oberto and then we'd just need 1 solid big to have a solid team:
Duncan
Sheed/Splitter/??
Ian
Gist
Oberto
Bonner
Why would the Clippers take Williams back AGAIN? They already paid him(bought him out) to leave, so why would they do that again?
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