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IF we manage to land Sheed, is Bonner expendable?
Considering we will be in lux tax territory, the Spurs would save ~$6 million, which is not chump change.
Sheed can do what Bonner does plus more. We would have Blair and Ian as second stringers, and we could always resign Oberto for the vet minimum as insurance and still save circa $4 million.
Thoughts?
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How are you suggesting we get rid of his $3 million? Do we really want Oberto with heart problems over Bonner? Matt sucked in the playoffs for whatever reason, but he could probably help us get a few wins in the regular season (top 3 point shooter in the NBA by percentage last year, I think).
The easiest way I can think of is a sign-and-trade of Rasheed Wallace or McDyess for Bonner, if they could use a player like that and if either of those players would accept that deal. Orlando for that matter loves the 3 and might like him if Gortat would accept a $3 million dollar sign-and-trade.
Oberto (if waived) and Ian's health are inquestion at this point, and Blair is still a rook. Bonner's familiar with the system and can still hit the 3 if nothing else and had a pretty good 1st half shooting-wise. I understand the thinking, but I think he stays....could be wrong though, I thought Bowen would stay (though he may return later).
If you cut Bonner you still are on the books for his salary. If you trade him you have to take back salary within 10% of Bonner's salary. The only other way is for detroit to do a sign and trade of Wallace for Bonner which does not benefit Detroit and would not match what Wallace wants in salary.
Naa... Bonner will stay. He was money with the 3 ball in the regular season, plus his defense on Dirk was actually pretty damn good.... at least better than I expected. Just look up dirk's numbers.
Can't he be traded for future picks and cash? I thought we did that to get rid of Jackie Butler...
Bonner + Finely for Camby? His contract is like 7 mill, isn't it?
I wouldn't waste assets in dumping Bonner. Just stick at the end of the bench. If a team comes calling and is willing to absorb his contract for a second rounder and cash, then maybe you make that move.
Dumping Butler's contract, which was smaller than Bonner's contract is now, turned out to be a horrible trade.
Besides, as a 11th or 12th man, Bonner has decent value.
Are you kidding me?His defense on Dirk was pretty damn good?I don't think he can defend Erick Dampier.
Outside of game 5, Dirk was nothing special.
Bonner played pretty good D on him.
Its been so long since that series I've put it out of memory.
Had he hit a couple threes here and there he wouldn't be pissed on so bad as he is right now.
Bonner's a very good defender. He was being asked to defend far bigger and better players all season long, and he did a commendable job of doing so. Don't blame Bonner for the fact that the Spurs had to play him out of position for heavy minutes. When you can let others do that and bring him in to score he suddenly becomes a huge weapon. Think of him as a front line version of Jack McClinton.
10 mill.
Agreed.
His shooting has no excuse, but his defense was good down the stretch.
What about Bonner and bring in Finley send them to Chicago for John Salmons......
Finley and Bonner are expiring contracts plus Chicago gets a Championship Veteran than can provide leadership from the bench......
Salmons can be another option coming off the bench....
Parker / Hill / McClinton
Ginobili / Mason / Hairston
Jefferson / Salmons / Williams
Duncan / Blair / Gist
(MLE) Big / Mahimni / Oberto?
Thoughts......
Maybe throw in a first or second rounder in 2010 or 2011 to sweeten the deal.....
We are in a win now mode......
How about Bonner and Finley and the corpse of Sidney Green for Kobe.
We must have seen a different season. Bonner was routinely abused, and on top of that could not grab a board to save his life. If his shot was not falling (pretty much every game since January), then he was detriment to the team.
Then again, my point is not about his abilities. I'm wondering if he's the guy that could be moved to offset some salary now that we're going to be on lux tax territory. I don't really mind him at the end of the bench.
huh?
like I said, look up Dirk's numbers, Bonner defended his ass damn good. Dirk didnt do the first 3 or 4 games with Bonner being the primary defender.
Last edited by phyzik; 06-26-2009 at 10:47 PM.
What the throw in David Greenwood too.
We'll throw in an autographed jersey of Silas to boot...
He's a better perimeter than post defender....his footwork is pretty good for a dude his size but in the post he's a disappointment for the position he plays. Maybe Finley can help us out financially by calling it quits....at least that's what's included in my prayers every night before bedtime.
7.2. Camby's deal was frontloaded.
I dont think it would be a bad trade..... Chicago would receive two players whose contracts would expire next year (2010 FA) and free up approximately 6.3 million and they would get their moneys worth with Finley and Bonner......
It would take Mason, Finley and Bonner for the trade to work for Camby.....
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