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probably more of a non-conformist, seccessionist type of thing. Not an "I support slavery" thing.
My father-n-law wanted to do something different for the fourth so we down to Port A. He has a big trailer, so we stayed at an RV park right off the beach. I didn’t expect to see so many confederate flags flying around and it wasn’t just at the park they were also flying them at the beach. Is this the norm, or just a fourth type of thing? It seemed everyone had a modified golf cart to drive around in and they had the flags attached to them. I really don’t understand people flying the confederate flag in this day in age. If you were from the civil war I can understand, but no one living now has anything to do with that flag.
Man the place was packed, doubt we ever do that again.
probably more of a non-conformist, seccessionist type of thing. Not an "I support slavery" thing.
Exactly. Just because someone has a confederate flag doesn't mean they support slavery. I for one don't fly it, but I love slaves.
Most confederate flag owners will tell you, "It's about history, not hate."
I am not a confederate flag owner. I do my rallying behind the 50 stars and 13 stripes.
And I bet they were looking at you real funny. Did they keep calling you "boy" and spit tobacco everywhere?
I get that some or most is not about pro slavery or racisim, but i don't get why they need to fly it for history. They should be flying the correct flag. When you're flying a huge as confederate flag and nothing else.....
Or maybe a Dukes of Hazard fan rally
Damnit, why did i know you were going to say something. dude, I think i saw about a handful of hispanics. So you know, I stuck out like a sore thumb. I guess all the white people head to the beach for fourth.
Slavery aside, the Confederate flag is the banner of white Anglo-Celtic Southern nationalism. It is one of the few flags found in America that is both regionally and ethnically specific.
You see, that is what i was getting. Nothing about history or Independence day.
How else are they going to even out the redness?
Flag stands for states rights and limited federal government just as much as it stands for slavery and all that bull .
At least that's what I hear. I grew up thinking it was something racist so I always feel embarrassed to be around them.
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I was at Port A on Saturday and didn't see any.
Maybe you weren't looking. I was by section 37, you?
While I agree it has nothing to do with Independence Day, it has everything to do with history. Like another poster related, the flag doesn't really mean "White Power." It signifies ideals that have been largely forgotten, even on Independence Day. In pursuit of the American Dream, one may forget the many costs of keeping that Dream alive - which has included rising in force against our governors.
I was there and saw lots of em. I also saw a group that brought a pallet of sod, laid it down and put lawn chairs on it.
It doesn't matter. At this point it has become stigmatized, much like the swastika.
Exactly. Most people don't even know what the real history behind the swastika is and what it represents. The first thing that comes to mind for most people is ww2 and hitler.
+1
I'd also wager that most people who fly these kind of flags are pretty racist as well.
I don't see anything wrong with flying the flag. It symbolizes part of the history of our country. I don't think that all the people who fly this flag are racists. What if they had family members who fought in the Civil War? Independence Day is part of remembering things in our past that have helped us to remain a free country. I have no problems with people who fly the Confederate Flag.
90% of people wouldn't recognize the Confederate Flag if they saw it and would probably mistake it for Cuba. What people associate now with the 'confederate flag' is the 'stars and bars' or the battle flag, which is not the confederate flag.
This,is the confederate flag:
That's the first national flag.. the stars got up to 11. From 1861-1863, that was the Confederate flag. In 1863-1865 the flag was the one I posted above.
You're wrong, The final Confederate flag has the 'blood stained banner' on the right side and incorporates the stars and bars on the upper left, but it's not the entire flag.
The battle flag that you posted has never been the national flag of the confederacy. Ever.
I see on google that it's actually the confederate navy jack, and was the flag of the Virginia Army. But nope, never the confederate flag.
Sorry. You fall into the 90%.
Word is correct.
Personally I don't see the flag as a symbol of racism. Sadly however, people who are racist like to use it for their purposes.
The problem I have with it is historical. It is a flag of a one-time enemy combatant. I would have the same problem with someone flying the Japanese Battle Flag.
I got my info from a book I read, so if it's wrong, then it's wrong.
The Confederate Battle Flag: America's Most Embattled Emblem
Also, I did post the wrong picture.. it's actually the battle flag in a sea of white.
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