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    Today on The Pop Show, Pop talked about a lot of stuff, including details on how they go about signing people, Devin's injury, the acquistion of Glenn, Manu being tired, etc.

    On Glenn Robinson:
    "Good shooter, good scorer. Something that what we need, especially if Devin doesn't come back to us."

    "He's somebody who can put the ball in the basket. If he can get in shape and do that for us, that's good. If not, we're not any worse off."

    Here's part 1 of the audio:

    http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/w...op4-5part1.mp3

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    Pop says that Manu only played like 10% of the practice today. And they might have to make a decision not to play him in both games of the back-to-backs for the rest of the season.

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    Yeah, but don't bring him off the bench. You don't want to enrage the Manu Defenders.

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    Pop says that he's very scared of Devin playing with contact and taking a hit. He says that Devin still has pain in his legs, but has started doing sit-ups. They don't know whether they are going to put him on the playoff roster.

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    Here's Part 2 (early) for you guys.

    http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/w...op4-5part2.mp3

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    Glenn might play three or four minutes tomorrow.

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    Pop says that Manu only played like 10% of the practice today. And they might have to make a decision not to play him in both games of the back-to-backs for the rest of the season.
    Agree with this completely. The only way to make sure he rests is for him not to dress. Off the bench won't matter. He will still go 100mph when he is in the game. Play him at home and selected game of back to back the rest of the season. Otherwise, the playoff run will be a short one.

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    Pop also talks about Scola, Tim's recovery, and other stuff.

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    Manu should have been playing 20-25 minutes off the bench for the last month to rest for the playoffs.

    But the Spurs didn't want to start a riot, I guess.

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    Once one of the top three spots are secure, Manu should not play period.

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    The whole thing with Manu starting is silly...

    Give Manu the recognition and respect of being named a starter and then use him as a bench player like in previous seasons the rest of the game...He does deserve to have his name announced at the beginning of every game...


    Also...everyone is wondering what Barry is going to do with reduced minutes...at the same time everyone says Manu needs his minutes cut back...

    What's the problem? I see two solutions.

    All these issues are kind of silly and easily solved...

    Although I do think that Manu and Barry have a chemistry when they are on the court together...they play the same style of basketball, except Manu is tougher and more of a penetrator...but they both crave that uptempo passing style...not sure how much it helps the team to give Barry minutes from Manu...but it will help Manu and Barry individually.

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    I'm more concerned that Devin might not get back than worrying about Manu's minutes. The Spurs are smart. Manu will get his rest.

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    timvp, I don't get your logic.

    If you want him to play less than 30 minutes, he can still do that starting. Actually, that's what he averages. 30 mpg. That's what he played the entire season (on average) as a starter. Cut his minutes to 25, but let him start.

    In my view, making him come of the bench could be more counter productive. He has said he (like 99% of the NBA players) likes to start.

    For the record. I don't care if he starts as long as he plays most of the 4th Q. But what I believe is of no consequence. What matters is what Pop and Manu think is better for the team.

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    Manu can play more important segments of the game coming off the bench. But we've gone through this before. The Manu Defenders (and apparently Manu himself) say that he doesn't want to come off the bench.

    Wasn't it AI who got bashed by the national media for saying he didn't want to come off the bench?

    Hmmmmmmmm.

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    The way Devin's back is described I would be surprised if he came back this year. Sounds like off season rehab/surgery maybe. He is too young to jeopardize his career...lots of basketball ahead of him. They need to be overly cautious.

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    John Havlicek played as a 6th man and as a starter. No one can remember which games he started and which ones he came off the bench but he finished all the Celts games. Hondo was too clutch not to finish games, but he went all out all the time just like Manu does now.

    The minutes, in total, are important to watch and not necessarily whether those minutes are starter's minutes (or not). Does it really make a difference if the Spurs use Gino in the 1st 6 minutes of the 1st quarter...or the 2nd 6 minutes of the 1st quarter? Right now, Pop plays Manu the first 6 and Brent the 2nd 6.

    Starting games makes little difference on Manu's body. It's total minutes.

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    The way Devin's back is described I would be surprised if he came back this year. Sounds like off season rehab/surgery maybe. He is too young to jeopardize his career...lots of basketball ahead of him. They need to be overly cautious.
    Ludden's article a few days ago sounded pretty optimistic about Devin -- even siting the 12th as a target date for his return. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    *hoping the pessimism is CIA so that other teams forget about him in free agency*

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    Wasn't it AI who got bashed by the national media for saying he didn't want to come off the bench?

    Hmmmmmmmm.
    C'mon man!

    What a stupid analogy.

    AI didn't want to come of the bench for totally different reasons.

    As I said before, I don't care as long as he's on the floor in crunch time.

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    Ludden's article a few days ago sounded pretty optimistic about Devin -- even siting the 12th as a target date for his return. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    *hoping the pessimism is CIA so that other teams forget about him in free agency*
    Great potential, sure would hate to see him really get hurt...even though he would be a big plus in the playoffs. So many guys that played too soon with back problems were never the same...and Devin's game is all about athleticism..

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    John Havlicek played as a 6th man and as a starter. No one can remember which games he started and which ones he came off the bench but he finished all the Celts games. Hondo was too clutch not to finish games, but he went all out all the time just like Manu does now.

    The minutes, in total, are important to watch and not necessarily whether those minutes are starter's minutes (or not). Does it really make a difference if the Spurs use Gino in the 1st 6 minutes of the 1st quarter...or the 2nd 6 minutes of the 1st quarter? Right now, Pop plays Manu the first 6 and Brent the 2nd 6.

    Starting games makes little difference on Manu's body. It's total minutes.
    Exactly. But if Manu starts and plays the fourth quarter, that's already 24 minutes (6 at the start of each half and the fourth). And that's not even counting any minutes in the second quarter.

    Now if you bring him off the bench, then you can play him at the end of first and third quarters and then most of second and fourth quarters ... while keeping his minutes closer to 20-25 than 30.


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    John Havlicek played as a 6th man and as a starter. No one can remember which games he started and which ones he came off the bench but he finished all the Celts games. Hondo was too clutch not to finish games, but he went all out all the time just like Manu does now.

    The minutes, in total, are important to watch and not necessarily whether those minutes are starter's minutes (or not). Does it really make a difference if the Spurs use Gino in the 1st 6 minutes of the 1st quarter...or the 2nd 6 minutes of the 1st quarter? Right now, Pop plays Manu the first 6 and Brent the 2nd 6.

    Starting games makes little difference on Manu's body. It's total minutes.
    Agreed with Solid.

    The most important minutes are the ones in crunch time. The rest of the minutes are important depending on who you are playing against and the flow of the game.

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    C'mon man!

    What a stupid analogy.

    AI didn't want to come of the bench for totally different reasons.
    What were those reasons? I honestly forgot.

    Inform me.

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    Once we win 4 games, Manu shouldn't come off the bench.....at all.

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    What were those reasons? I honestly forgot.

    Inform me.
    He didn't participate in a shoot around after he had missed the previous game because of injury. He told Chris Ford he was ready to go and Ford told him he would come off the bench....he took off his uniform and said he wasn't playing. That is AI's version.

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    Does Manu need to be in better shape? I know he plays hard and goes 110% every time he's on the court, but if he knows that he plays like this why doesn't he train harder so that he can withstand the rigors of the NBA season?

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