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Agree with all of that.
Still cant believe a player of Glenn Robinson's caliber, is on the freakin team.
Damn Im excited
Manu Ginobili
A
Offense
This was one of Ginobili’s better shooting games in a while. He shot 5-for-7 from the field, 2-for-2 from beyond the three-point line and 4-for-4 from the free throw line. The three days between games obviously helped Ginobili’s energy level, especially on the offensive end. He finished with 16 points in 21 minutes.
Defense
Ginobili destroyed Marko Jaric on both ends of the court. He held his former European teammate scoreless in 26 minutes of action.
Overall
The game Ginobili played Wednesday night against the Clippers is the type of game the Spurs need from him. He’s been beat up a lot and has suffered from fatigue, so the Spurs are contemplating resting him down the stretch of the season. The bottomline is the Spurs have to do whatever it takes to make sure Ginobili is fresh for the playoffs.
Bruce Bowen
A-
Offense
After only hitting four of his last 16 shots over the previous two games, Bowen broke out of his mini-slump against the Clippers. He shot 4-for-8 from the field, while connecting on half of his four three-point attempts. He did a great job of getting out on the break and finishing.
Defense
It was another day at the office for Bowen defensively. He was all over Corey Maggette from the moment the ball was tipped. He never gave him any room at all to find any sort of a rhythm. Maggette finished 6-for-16 from the field, and had to hit some tough shots to even shoot that well.
Overall
With Duncan and Brown out of the lineup, Bowen has stepped up huge. He’s taken a bigger role in the leadership department and is playing well on both sides of the court.
Brent Barry
A-
Offense
It was pretty much a flawless offensive performance by Barry. He was 4-for-5 from beyond the arc, to go with four assists and one turnover in 24 minutes of action. When he is shooting like that, the Spurs are tough to beat. Even without Duncan.
Defense
His defense was pretty good for Brent Barry standards. He didn’t get beat off the dribble too much and went to the boards to pull down five rebounds.
Overall
This is how the Spurs need Barry to play. They need him to hit down shots, lead the fast breaks and get everyone involved. They need him to be the offseason acquisition that the whole league was expecting before the season.
Tony Massenuburg
B+
Offense
Offensively, Massenburg played a physical ballgame. He roughed it up inside to finish with six points on 3-of-6 shooting from the field in 19 minutes of playing time. Too often this season he’s looked out of place and unsure of his spot in the offense. Wednesday night against the Clippers, he acted like he knew what he was doing.
Defense
Massenburg did a good job on defense and, like always, wasn’t afraid to lay the lumber. He picked up five fouls … all of which seemed to prove a point.
Overall
While Duncan has been sidelined with his ankle injury, Massenburg hasn’t fully stepped up to the plate. He’s played some ineffective minutes over the last couple weeks. Against the Clippers, he played how the Spurs need him to play.
Sean Marks
B+
Offense
The one thing you have to love about Sean Mark’s offensive game is that he’s not bashful. Around the rim he’s always looking to dunk the basketball. On the perimeter he’s always looking for his shot.
Defense
Marks had a very good defensive outing against Los Angeles. In only 17 minutes of playing time, Marks had ten rebounds and two blocks. His defense has improved immensely as he’s been given an opportunity to learn the system.
Overall
Marks is making a case for himself on the Spurs’ playoff roster. He’s played exceedingly well as of late and is outplaying his compe ion at his position.
Glenn Robinson
B+
Offense
Robinson is the type of shooter who could take a year off and come back and hit his first jumpshot. Actually, that’s exactly what he did Wednesday night at the SBC Center. He hit all three of his jumpers on his way to seven points in 13 minutes. Once a shooter, always a shooter.
Defense
Defense has never been the strong suit of the Spurs’ newest player. As a matter of fact, he might not have played defense in his NBA career to this point. Popovich will no doubt stress to him that he must put some effort on that side of the court.
Overall
It was a good showing for Robinson in his debut. The Spurs hope that he can add an offensive punch that can help caring them while Duncan is out.
Robert Horry
B
Offense
Horry had a tough time shooting the ball Wednesday night. He hit only 2-of-7 shots from the field and 1-of-3 from downtown. The Clippers’ long and athletic bigmen gave him some trouble. However, Horry did a find job passing the ball as he finished with three assists.
Defense
Horry’s defense was solid. Though he only finished with three rebounds and didn’t have a block in his 23 minutes of play, he made it tough for the Clippers’ bigmen to get it going.
Overall
Big Shot Rob has really stepped up as the playoffs approach. Once Duncan returns to action, the Spurs will have a great power forward weapon off the bench.
Rasho Nesterovic
B
Offense
Nesterovic wasn’t effective offensively against the Clippers. He missed a variety of jumpers and chip shots inside. For the game, he finished 2-for-9. The good news is he went to the line … and hit both free throws. No news at this hour on the time and location of the parade to celebrate the accomplishment.
Defense
Five rebounds and two blocks in 26 minutes is a pretty good outing defensively for the Spurs’ center. He bothered a lot of shots, but could have done a better job on the defensive glass.
Overall
With Duncan still out for a while more, the Spurs need Nesterovic to score some on the low block. He has good moves and a good touch, he just lacks confidence sometimes. On the upcoming three-game road trip, the Spurs need him brimming with confidence.
Beno Udrih
B-
Offense
Although Udrih missed seven of his ten shot attempts from the field, Popovich has to be happy with his effort. He is always pleading with his young Slovenian point guard to be more aggressive and to compete more. Udrih also did a good job of running the offense, handing out five assists in 21 minutes of play.
Defense
He did a pretty good job defensively, although recently he’s struggled on that end of the court. He’s getting beat off the dribble a lot and has been slow to rotate at times.
Overall
Udrih has been streaky so far this season -– as most rookie point guards are. The Spurs need him to be on a good streak heading into the playoffs.
Tony Parker
C+
Offense
After five minutes of action, Parker already had seven points. By the end of the game, Parker only had 11 points. That’s pretty much how it’s been going for Parker over the last month. He starts out hot offensively and then cools as the game goes on. Against the Clippers, the Spurs really didn’t need too much scoring after the first quarter, but hopefully this isn’t a sign of things to come.
Defense
Parker’s defense was average. Shaun Livingston and Rick Brunson got some good looks against him and he was caught out of position at times. However, he did a good job of playing pressing the Clippers’ ballhandlers fullcourt.
Overall
Only three assists in 26 minutes isn’t good enough for the Spurs’ starting point guard. His head also didn’t seem totally into the game. With the Spurs having a bunch of games coming up, they’ll need a better effort from Parker.
Nazr Mohammed
D-
Offense
The more Mohammed plays in the Spurs’ system, the worse his offense looks. Nowadays, he’s resorting to reverse layups that he either misses or gets blocked. At least the Spurs have realized he’s not a threat in the post.
Defense
Mohammed might be even more of a disappointment on defense. His rotations are horrid, he doesn’t alter shots too often and seems to only get defensive rebounds that come right to him.
Overall
The trade of Malik Rose for Mohammed isn’t looking too good for the Spurs right now. There’s no doubt that Rose would be helping the Spurs far more than Mohammed is, especially with Duncan out. Mohammed needs to turn it around quickly or else he could find himself off the playoff roster.
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 04-07-2005 at 02:59 AM.
Agree with all of that.
Still cant believe a player of Glenn Robinson's caliber, is on the freakin team.
Damn Im excited
Nice job ElJay! And bonus points for presentation!
I give TimVP an A for these grades...What kept him from an A+ is that he was a bit tough on the big dog, who played a flat out excellent game for an allegedly washed up guy that hasn't been on the court in a year.
For the season TimVP's grades grade out at a C-...
He started out strong, but during the heart of the season his grades were scarcer than an Avery Johnson jumpshot...even worse was when he admitted on the forum that he didn't want to put the effort into doing them at times...the slacker.
SpursTalk needs TimVP to finish strong if they expect to have grades throughout the rest of the season...this means TimVP needs to follow Brent Barry's lead and step up under the pressure of the brutal finishing schedule...he can't take anymore games off and he needs to be dependable down the stretch for SpursTalk to have a sucessful grading season.
I'm like Robert Horry. I play well at the beginning of the season but then I coast until April.
Hey...so far it's been good enough to get us through the regular season...the playoffs are when it really matters...and like Horry...I know your grades will show up for the finals
Nice.
Nesterovic wasn’t effective offensively against the Clippers. He missed a variety of jumpers and chip shots inside. For the game, he finished 2-for-9. The good news is he went to the line … and hit both free throws. No news at this hour on the time and location of the parade to celebrate the accomplishment.
Nice post L L Cool J
I think Robinson deserved an A-, but apart form that, the grades were spot on. You could argue that Rasho was worse on offense, but I think he showed potential Also, TP needs to step up against Dallas, if only to give him more confidence
You don't measure players against each other, you measure them against their capabilities and what's expected of them. Rasho isn't really about offense, so his defense carries a lot more weight.Rasho's shooting was horrendous, yet still a B? What's up wit dat? He should get a B+ for defense and an F for offense....average that out and he gets a C-.
Also, how classic is it that Robinson missed his first FT? If that's not a sign of a Spur, I don't know what is.
exactly, for a guy that can't miss a mid range jumper, to miss a free throw is amazing.
spurs jinx
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Child Wellbutrin
Last edited by san antonio spurs; 09-17-2011 at 10:26 AM.
We really shouldn't use the free throw analogy any more. I checked it up; it's number 6 in the Big Book of San Antonio Spur Clichés.
You aren't right when it's not your grading system. And congrats on continuing to be one of the biggest asses on my forum. Why don't you go back to whining about losing Battle Blogs.I am right, you are wrong....and congrats about almost reachin 20K posts...
That makes absolutely zero sense.and if his defense carries more weight, why does he take 9 shots?
Dont bother scooter.just trying to help
I was just trying to explain to you that it's not about the average of his offensive and defenisve output. That's all I'm saying. You come across very abrasive and insecure with the "I'm right, you're wrong" style posts all the time. And in the last few days, I was bombarded with emails/messages regarding your behavior after you lost the Battle Blogs. So maybe you should try to ease up instead of thinking you are a know-it-all.
he does, if hes a defensive playerdoes NOT deserve a B after shooting 22 percent in a game
AND HAD A GOOD DEFENSIVE GAME!
WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!
Who is he taking them from, Mike Wilks???if he is so bad at offense, why does he take shots away from other players and take 9 of his own
Hes not horrible on offense, hes very talented, but for some reason he cant get it through his thick skull that he is.
Just because he had an off night doesnt mean hes NOT talented offensively.
Look kid, chill out.why dont u jump on your scooter and scoot your way over to Rashos house, sit on his lap, and then tell him what you want for Christmas
Kori already had to lock one thread, dont make her lock this one.
Chill out, and just read the thread.
Yes, emails. You aren't understanding -- I'm talking about people emailing to complain about you. And I don't care if you disagree or agree with me or anyone else. Disagreements make for good discussion. I was just trying to explain that the grade isn't decided by averaging the offense and defensive production.emails? maybe from someone else...
The point wasn't for you to agree with the grading system. I was just explaining what the system is -- you can write your own analysis on a completely different system and so can everyone else on the board. I was just trying to "help out" with a clarification.
But whatever.
Tnx!!!
+Long time no seeing
Nice new look
Please keep on, at least till June
If he is from ARgentina he must be loosing something in the translation.
Spurs Head Coach Gregg Popovich
On the game - “A lot of people had the opportunity to play and they played well. Bruce led the way establishing our defense. It was a good team win.”
On Glenn Robinson - “If he missed a shot he’d be in trouble. That’s not why we brought him in (sarcastically). He did pretty good. It’s got to be difficult (after sitting out so long). I was surprised with his rhythm. He’s a jump shooter and that’s what he does. You don’t forget how to do that.”
On playing Dallas tomorrow - “They are one of the best teams in the league. They do a great job and are as good as anybody. Playing a team like that will be a challenge. Teams are what they are and they’re not going to change their whole system (due to the coaching change).”
Glenn Robinson
On the game - “I felt real good out there. I had some good looks and got some good passes. I need to get into better shape, but I was glad my shot was going down. I felt pretty comfortable.”
“This is a championship atmosphere so I came in with a lot of energy. I was so excited I almost fouled out in the first half. My adrenaline was really flowing.”
Manu Ginobili
On the game - “I haven’t been playing very well lately. I have hustled a lot but haven’t really put a good game together. I don’t think I’m risking my body so I’ll just keep at it.”
“We could and should start playing a lot better on the road and in general. We have been winning at home, but with the exception of the Houston game we haven’t played really well. We need to step up and play better.”
Clippers Head Coach Mike Dunleavy
On the game - “I was disappointed in the way we played tonight. I thought that we had way too many turnovers, particularly in the first half. We had 15 in the first half, but we did a little better job on turnovers in the second half. For the most part we struggled shooting the ball, part of that is the fact that they are a pretty good defensive team. We didn’t make shots, which could be the by product of the last game of a long road trip. We just didn’t play a very good game.”
On the Clippers’ defensive effort - “Defensively we were okay. We played some zone and matched up, trying to take their quickness out of the game. But we let some guys slip behind us and they hit some buckets and that is disappointing.”
On the Clippers’ most recent road trip - “We will be happy to get home, but the fatigue from the road trip didn’t play a factor in tonight’s game. We should have played a much better game than we did tonight. We just missed too many shots tonight.”
Chris Wilcox
On the game - “We just got outworked. We should have been better than we were tonight. We just didn’t play hard. We didn’t come out ready to play from the beginning. They got a lead on us at halftime and we just were not able to come back.”
On holding Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker below their season averages - “It doesn’t matter how many those guys get. We are not satisfied unless we win the game. All of that containing one guy to a certain amount of points doesn’t mean anything if you lose.”
Shaun Livingston
On the game - “They came out tonight and beat us in every facet of the game. They out worked us, they out shot us, they out rebounded us and they had more blocked shots than us. They did the hustle plays that you have to make to win the game. They just played better than us.”
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