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    lololol

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    The tort reform in Texas lowered premiums for everyone, didn't it?

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    ...saved the insurance companies billions...

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    The tort reform in Texas lowered premiums for everyone, didn't it?
    At least I have ample options compared to most now that doctors are flocking to Tejas.
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    Did you have a shortage of doctors before that?

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    Yes. A severe one.

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    Really, tell us more about it. How did your severe shortage of doctors affect your medical care?

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    Did liability premiums drop for TX doctors?

    Did they pass it along to patients?

    What percentage annually is/was medical liability payments as function of total liability insurance premiums?

    What percentage annually is/was the medical liability payments of TX's total health costs?

    Of the 100K deaths/year due to avoidable medical errors, how many are in TX?

    Tort reform is a right-wing red-herring, like Acorn, election fraud, death panels, ad nauseam.

    Reformed torts are a huge barrier to even bringing cases to court for people maimed or killed by medical ups.
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    I don't like the idea of suing doctors because they make a mistake; you can't hold doctors to a standard of perfection that you would hold absolutely no other profession to. If a doctor routinely screws up and kills or injures his patients then he should obviously be fired and blacklisted from the profession, but suing a guy for making an honest mistake doesn't sit well with me. Unless the doctor came in drunk or it can be shown there was malicious intent, I think it's pretty shady to sue.

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    not surprising.

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    Nothing can stir up a plant or an idiot who acts like a plant.

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    Really, tell us more about it. How did your severe shortage of doctors affect your medical care?
    It caused me great distress. It is something I would rather not share as I am still seeking counseling to overcome the obstacles I faced during this time in my life.

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    It caused me great distress. It is something I would rather not share as I am still seeking counseling to overcome the obstacles I faced during this time in my life.
    You haven't found a counselor yet?

    Still suffering from the doctor shortage.

    You should get someone to look at your GI tract because you are completely full of .

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    Did you have a shortage of doctors before that?
    Practices that were the target of most lawsuits were losing physicians at an alarming rate, Obstetrics and Gynecology being two of the most prominent.

    Illegal aliens on the border were having trouble getting their babies delivered on this side of the Rio Grande.

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    Practices that were the target of most lawsuits were losing physicians at an alarming rate, Obstetrics and Gynecology being two of the most prominent.
    Quantify "alarming rate."

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    Quantify "alarming rate."
    Sorry, not doing your research. It was a few years ago. Maybe you were too young to remember the stories.

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    Sorry, I can't back up my made up bull and lies.

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    I'm going to goad Yonivore into doing my work.
    My statement stands. Physicians were quitting because of their exposure to unreasonable lawsuits.

    When Texas ins uted tort reforms, they started flowing back into the state. In one article, I read that 7,000 physicians flowed into Texas from other states, after reform.

    Refute me if you can.

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    My statement stands. Physicians were quitting because of their exposure to unreasonable lawsuits.

    When Texas ins uted tort reforms, they started flowing back into the state. In one article, I read that 7,000 physicians flowed into Texas from other states, after reform.

    Refute me if you can.
    i read that.......and i read the follow up article.

    it said they weren't real doctors.

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    As usual, DarrinS needs some perspective:

    It can hardly come as a surprise that Barack Obama, Harvard Law Class of '91, is popular with lawyers. They've given him $21 million in donations so far, compared with a measly $7 million for Republican rival John McCain.

    But like all things Obama, the picture is cloudier than it first appears. Most of Obama's lawyer money came from defense firms. He got the single biggest slug of cash from Kirkland & Ellis, the Chicago law firm that represents Marlboro merchant Philip Morris and asbestos manufacturers, among others. He also co-sponsored a bill designed to cut down on malpractice litigation in 2005, and voted for the Class Action Fairness Act, a law that made it harder for trial lawyers to file some of their most lucrative cases.
    He's not a tort reform advocate, but you oversimplify the issue.

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    My statement stands. Physicians were quitting because of their exposure to unreasonable lawsuits.

    Refute me if you can.
    My statement stands. You can't prove they were leaving "at an alarming rate" as you claim.

    Refute me if you can.

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    What percentage of pre-TX-tort reforms suits were frivolous?

    What percentage of total payouts were for frivoulous suits?

    As always, the right wing uses extreme examples of 1% or 2% of all cases to over the other 98% (where the real money is), slamming the court door in the victims' faces.

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