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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...s09-WestChampsSummer Forecast: West champs
By Royce Webb
ESPN.com
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On Wednesday we predicted who would represent the East in the Finals. Today, the West.
Los Angeles Lakers (41 votes)
As powerful and compe ive as the Western Conference has been for the past few years, the Los Angeles Lakers or San Antonio Spurs have almost always been the last team standing. For 10 of the past 11 seasons, the Lakers or Spurs have represented the West in the Finals, winning the whole chalupa in eight of those 10 seasons.
Our panel sees no reason to switch horses now, with 51 of our 53 voters predicting that either the Lakers or the Spurs will win the conference le.
But that doesn't mean the panel sees the Spurs as being on par with the defending champs. Rather, 78.8 percent of our voters like the Lakers to get out of the West for the seventh time in 11 seasons.
It's not hard to see why. The Lakers are less than three months removed from winning the 15th le in franchise history, and the fourth in 10 years. Despite some scares along the way, the 2008-09 Lake Show dominated the season and postseason to such a degree that it ranks as the ninth-best team since the NBA-ABA merger (ninth of 66 Finals teams in all), according to John Hollinger.
If you want to put away stats and history and focus on personnel, start by looking at Phil Jackson, only the most accomplished NBA coach ever, and Kobe Bryant, the second-best 2-guard in history, both of whom were there for all four of L.A.'s ring ceremonies this decade. Then move on to Pau Gasol, the All-Star who is 86-22 with the Lakers (in regular-season games he's played, plus 30-14 in the postseason), and Lamar Odom, one of the most talented sixth men ever to lace 'em up.
Which brings us to the question that hangs over the Lakers, and might ultimately haunt them: Was it wise to add Ron Artest to this championship mix?
That is, should we consider him the league's Best Newcomer or Worst Newcomer?
On paper, the multifaceted Artest is an upgrade, of course, even over a talented player like Trevor Ariza, whom Artest is replacing as the Lakers' small forward and defensive stopper. But Ron-Ron has a well-earned, well-known rep as a disruptive, often maniacal force: Just four months ago, he was ejected twice in the playoffs versus the Lakers.
The offseason has been no quieter. Stories emerged about Artest visiting the Lakers' shower in Boston unannounced to address Kobe while Artest was a member of the Sacramento Kings, and taking a team bus in his underwear while with the Houston Rockets, both incidents happening in the past 15 months. Then there was his head-spinning torrent of tweets and a bizarre rap tribute to Michael Jackson, from whose album "Thriller" Artest selected his latest uniform number and latest Twitter name, ThugRaider37, replacing his former moniker, 96TruwarierQB (Google it), which itself was a small reminder of what took place at his previous stop, Indiana, which was very eager to move him to his next destination on his one-of-a-kind NBA journey.
Could this be the beginning of a beautiful friendship between the Lakers and Ron-Ron? Could Artest play the tough-guy role that Dennis Rodman perfected for three Bulls championship teams under Phil Jackson? Sure.
But all in all, it's quite a roll of the dice by a team that was sure to be favored to win it all anyway.
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San Antonio Spurs (10 votes)
For San Antonio, the questions are far more prosaic:
Should we really expect Manu Ginobili to bounce back 100 percent from his troubling ankle injury?
Is Tim Duncan's knee OK?
Will Tony Parker, the slight point guard, continue his dazzling offensive dominance?
Can a rotation that will feature players age 37, 37, 35, 34, 32, 30, 30 and 29 (their ages by the end of June) handle the 100-game, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
If the answers are "yes, yes, yes and yes," the Spurs are in great shape. But a single "no" might well doom them in the deep Western Conference.
But as they move beyond April's humbling first-round exit at the hands of the rival Dallas Mavericks, there are plenty of reasons for Spurs fans to have a sunny outlook this summer.
First, there's the arrival of Richard Jefferson -- our pick for Best Newcomer and the kind of athletic wing player the Spurs have been looking to add for several seasons -- and Antonio McDyess, still a capable big man.
Then there is the infusion of youthful energy and talent from draft steal DeJuan Blair and second-year guard George Hill, along with the potential emergence of Ian Mahinmi, who's still only 22.
And finally there is the cluster of reasons the Spurs have a halo in the eyes of many NBA observers: the peerless San Antonio front office, steady-as-a-rock coach Gregg Popovich, the players' nonstop commitment to teamwork and defense and the inspired on-court leadership provided by Duncan, Ginobili and Parker.
So far the formula has added up to four rings in 11 years, and who's to say they can't win one for the thumb?
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Dallas Mavericks and Denver Nuggets (1 vote apiece)
The non-LA, non-SA portion of the Western Conference comprises 13 teams and managed just two votes from our panel. Yes, that's a dis.
But the second tier of the West is deep and potent enough to rate a mention here, as our voters have guesstimated that seven teams will win 47 or more games.
So we'll let these two votes, for the Nuggets and Mavericks, stand in for the votes that could have been cast for the Blazers, the Jazz, the Hornets, the Suns, or -- yes -- even the Clippers.
Time after time, we see surprise teams jump from "afterthought" to the NBA Finals: in recent years, the Magic (2009), the Lakers (2008), the Cavs (2007), the Heat (2006), the Pistons (2004), the Nets (2002), and so on.
So the first week of September is no time to give up hope, sports fans.
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Has that list been posted on here?Despite some scares along the way, the 2008-09 Lake Show dominated the season and postseason to such a degree that it ranks as the ninth-best team since the NBA-ABA merger (ninth of 66 Finals teams in all), according to John Hollinger.
If last year's Lakers team is 9th, I've got to believe the '07 Spurs team is right there as well.. And the '01 Lakers and '99 Spurs have to be near the top of that list, right?
Who is dumber ?
The espn guy writing stupid things or the Lakers troll who copy and bold these stupidities?
Troll? Please. Been bringing it before you even found the board.
Fans who hate when the mirror is in their face tend to act like es and cry "wrong forum" or calling for mommy instead of talking about the game.
Wow, they really like seeing into the Spurs future just to add that extra year. How convenient to leave out Blair, Hill, Ian, Mason, and most importantly Tony's advanced age.
Yes, troll.
Listing players ages is useless and dumb if you don't look at who will play heavy minutes. The two 37 years old players are Finley and Ratliff. In all likelihood, both will have a very limited role if they have one.
What is even funnier is that Hill and Blair's ages were not mentioned...even though both will likely have rotation minutes.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128783
99 Spurs 8th
01 Lakers and 07 Spurs not in top 10
Hope the writer doesn't bite his tongue. Lamar, Luke and Ron are going to be 30 by then, Gasol will be a week away from 30, Fisher will be nearing 36, Kobe is going to be turning 32 soon after.
Can a Laker rotation that will feature players age 35, 31, 30,30, 31, one injury prone center and the rest total miserable scrubs, handle, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
Thanks.
And...
Can a rotation that will feature players age 37, 37, 35, 34, 32, 30, 30 and 29 (their ages by the end of June) handle the 100-game, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
If the answers are "yes, yes, yes and yes," the Spurs are in great shape. But a single "no" might well doom them in the deep Western Conference.
Fly away, troll.
Can a rotation that will feature players age 37, 37, 35, 34, 32, 30, 30 and 29 (their ages by the end of June) handle the 100-game, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
Finley will get minimum minutes, Rattlif wont even be in the rotation, 32-29 IS the average NBA player age, Mcdyess has ppl behind him.
This leaves 34 year old Duncan as being the deal breaker. duh, we knew that. Duncan is ALWAYS the deal breaker
the question should be:
Can a 34 year old Duncan handle the 100-game, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
By the end of June :Can a rotation that will feature players age 37, 37, 35, 34, 32, 30, 30 and 29 (their ages by the end of June) handle the 100-game, eight-month grind of the NBA season and postseason?
Michael Finley 37
Theo Ratliff 37
Antonio McDyess 35
Tim Duncan 34
Manu Ginobili 32
Matt Bonner 30
Richard Jefferson 30
Roger Mason 29
Tony Parker 28 (apparently he's not in the team's rotation)
The rest of the team (by the end of June) :
Marcus Haislip 29
George Hill 24
Ian Mahinmi 23
Marcus Williams 23
Malik Hairston 23
DeJuan Blair 21
Last edited by timaios; 09-04-2009 at 01:27 PM.
quote from that thread, on the spurs' defense.
So stingy was the defense that only twice in 17 playoff games did San Antonio's opponent muster 90 points.
damnn they might be the oldest team in the league
I dont think so!
Talking out of your ass again? How many times do you need to be called out on that before you give up?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...9&postcount=58
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...4&postcount=59
ESPN said the Cavs dominated last season, now the Lakers did?
I like that the Lakers are picked to win it all. They're the champs. And they should be given top dog status until someone knocks them off. It gives us something to aim for.
lakerfans seem scared
damnn they might be the oldest team in the league
By the end of June :
Michael Finley 37
Theo Ratliff 37
Antonio McDyess 35
Tim Duncan 34
Manu Ginobili 32
Matt Bonner 30
Richard Jefferson 30
Roger Mason 29
Tony Parker 28 (apparently he's not in the team's rotation)
The rest of the team (by the end of June) :
Marcus Haislip 29
George Hill 24
Ian Mahinmi 23
Marcus Williams 23
Malik Hairston 23
DeJuan Blair 21
Well what a goddamn surprise, BSPN picks the fakers to win the West. Not sure what's more shocking, that or someone actually picking the mavs to come out as as western conference champs.
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