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    Are you pimping your own article?

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    Are you pimping your own article?
    ofcourse!! He is Detroit fan! and anti Spurs??

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    Why the Spurs will NOT come out of the West
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    It seems that since the first game of the NBA season, who would come out of the West was already determined. Analyst after analyst declared the Spurs to be the West's representative this season. Very few if any took a step back and looked at the big picture. I am prepared to do just that.

    We all know the first round match-up that looks to be in place as of now, the same one that the Spurs have to be dreading. The Denver Nuggets are playing better basketball then anybody. So the great record and all, the Spurs are going to draw the hottest team in Basketball. Some reward huh? If you take a look back to the NBA finals a few years ago with the Nets and Spurs, the main match-up was Kenyon Martin and Tim Duncan. Both great defensive players. Both guys get the majority of their points under the basket. Martin is the more intense emotional player, Duncan is more talented. If this is indeed the match-up in the first round of the playoffs this year, the Spurs should be very scared. You could arguably say the Nuggets are better at 3 of the 5 starting positions. Those positions being Point Guard, Small Forward and Center. Both teams like to run, but Denver does it better. If San Antonio gets into a running game, they may hang around but they will ultimately lose.

    As a matter of fact, not only can Denver beat San Antonio, but the majority of the Western Conference playoff teams could do the very same thing. Which ones? How about these ones.

    Dallas Mavericks- Perhaps the deepest bench in the league, the difference between this team and Maverick teams in years past? Defense.

    Seattle Sonics- Although they've hit a mini slump, their outside shooting could cause the Spurs major problems. The only question would be if Ridnour is mature enough to run the team and win in playoff style basketball.

    Houston Rockets- This is a team that when at its best can beat you so many different ways. Yao is the X-factor.

    Phoenix Suns- I obviously couldn't leave out the number one ranked team out West. While I don't think Steve Nash has earned anything close to the MVP consideration he's getting, I do think the Suns are going to be tough to beat.

    That's effectively 5 teams from the field of 7 that could cause the Spurs serious problems. But the real question is, why?

    When you think of the Spurs, you must notice the fact that out of their 5 starters, 2 of them are offensive liability's. You can't sell ANY team like that as the Favorites to me. Nesterovic and Bowen are role players, and while they may do that effectively throughout the season, it will be hard for them to match other teams talent in the playoffs.

    You obviously then can throw in the fact that Tim Duncan is coming back from an injury that is going to limit him more then he thinks. His stamina will be off, his footwork won't be there right away, and his shot may be rusty. Duncan is not going to come back from this and go up against the top compe ion and be the best player on the court. If he doesn't get the last few Regular Season games to get his feel for the game back, he's going to have a heck of a challenge laid out for him.

    Guard play is good, you can't deny that. You can say they make a few head scratching plays, but at the end of the game they are going to have the solid output that the Spurs need. Chances are they won't dominate a game though.

    If you think back to Previous Spurs teams, you will remember Stephen Jackson and Steve Kerr hitting big shots when they were needed. While Horry and Barry have that capability, I'm not sure its going to be quite as effective this time around. People didn't realize how good Jackson was around that time.

    So when it comes down to it, the West is just to talented this year for the Spurs to come out. Can they? Sure, a handful of teams COULD, but I put there chances at no greater then 20%. Young guards, a sliced offensive starting lineup, an injured big man, all of these things could prohibit the Spurs from getting the job done, and IMO it will.
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    LMAO! 20%?!? What chance do you give the Suns, a team with NO real playoff experience? 5%?

    EDIT: Oh, and in case you haven't checked, the chances of the Spurs meeting the Nuggets in the first round is declining rapidly. Either the Spurs or Nuggets will move up a spot, or both.
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    This load of crap is a featured story?? Sounds like the ramblings of some 12 year old.

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    Young guards?

    Tony may be young, but he doesn't have experience?

    Gino has no experience?

    Uh, neither of them can be clutch?

    Horry isn't clutch? I guess that means his nickname has something to do with vodka shots.

    I call BS on this article.

    I'd give him the Ducan injury, and maybe a little on the offensive liabilities. But what team has the largest margin of victory in the NBA? Which team just scored the most points in the league since like '91 or something?

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    health and detroit are the only obstacles.

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    If you take a look back to the NBA finals a few years ago with the Nets and Spurs, the main match-up was Kenyon Martin and Tim Duncan. Both great defensive players. Both guys get the majority of their points under the basket. Martin is the more intense emotional player, Duncan is more talented. If this is indeed the match-up in the first round of the playoffs this year, the Spurs should be very scared.
    Yeah, Kenyon Martin really showed up in that series with the Nets, didn't he? I seem to remember that Duncan kind of got the better of him... I seem to remember, in fact, that Kenyon pretty much disappeared.

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    Wow, usually I stand off, but that was a moronic article. I wonder if he's been watching the NBA the last several years... or even longer. He seems to think it important that every player in the starting line-up be a fantastic scorer... And reasons why any team could beat the Spurs is largely cir stantial. He also believes Manu is a young player and fails to see that this is one of the clutchest player in the league. And I doubt Andre Miller is better than Tony Parker.

    It's a classic example of 'position match-ups' that some rag like USA Today runs (but runs better) as a way of guessing at the winner of a series. You know: 'Which PF is better?' 'Which C is better?' 'Which PG?' And then adding them up. I don't doubt the Spurs could get knocked off by anybody, but I doubt it'll come down to a single one of these reasons. The only team to beat a healthy Spurs team since 1998 has been the Lakers, which was an exceptional franchise for a time.

    Ugh. Not worth the band-width.

    Yeah, Kenyon Martin really showed up in that series with the Nets, didn't he? I seem to remember that Duncan kind of got the better of him... I seem to remember, in fact, that Kenyon pretty much disappeared.
    Ah yes, and another point. Martin was awful against Duncan that series. Of TD's 8 blocks the final game, perhaps 6 of them came against the execrable Kenyon Martin.

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    This load of crap is a featured story?? Sounds like the ramblings of some 12 year old.

    What really cracks me up is that somehow the Spurs that have scored 261 points over the last two games somehow have no offense....
    Last edited by MadDog73; 04-11-2005 at 05:03 PM.

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    Duncan>>>>>>KMart

    And KMArt is no defensive player compared to Duncan. That is crazy talk.

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    Oh, and if you're going to write a "featured story", don't forget to do a spelling and grammar check next time.

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    The only coach that has ever gotten the best of Gregg Popovich was Phil Jackson, really?

    Duncan has never been beaten in the playoffs by a player not named Shaq?

    wasn't Robinson a 20 a night guy the last time we won the championship, what changed there exactly?

    Manu didn't drop 48 against phoenix, 40 against the clipps?
    Parker didn't go off last night with 36, 12, and 6?

    Duncan's doctors are wrog and we wont get him back until after the end of the season now?

    Andre Miller > Tony Parker? Really?

    Bruce isn't going to own Anthony?

    The Mavericks are deeper than the Spurs?

    The Suns didn't get crushed here at SBC and then lost to the Run-N-Gun spurs in the valley of the sun?

    oh ok, well this guy clearly knows what he is talking about, the Spurs have no chance in .

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    There's some valid points in that article. While you can argue that Bowen and Rasho are offensive liabilities, they are defensive assets. How many of the playoff teams possess a stopper like Bowen or even a seasoned shot blocker like Rasho. He's not always pretty but I do believe that he does exactly what Pop wants him to. All teams have a few knocks against them but the Spurs have something that most teams do not, playoff and finals experience, an experienced (and somewhat young) core and a solid bench of veteran players. I like their chances better than most.

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    Maybe you need to realize who posted this article:

    http://www.nbabasketballnews.com/for...cb1d442530182c

    http://www.nbabasketballnews.com/for...h_author=Combs

    I write bad checks.
    I figure we wll be getting tons of new members and no idea who they are or where they came from.

    So lets start her off...

    I am Jon Combs, I run this here site. If you don't know me by nowwww you will never reallly know meee wooooo.

    So, who are you and how did you find us?

    P.S. You can leave your last name out. Mobruler will hack your info if ya don't Wink . Kidding.
    Ha, I'm liking the dislike list Wink .

    Here are things I thought some of ya should know about me as well.

    I think Allen Iverson and Kobe Bryant are the 2 best basketball players in the league.

    I think Chris Webber when used the right way is the 3rd best PF in the game.

    In 2 years the Bulls and Clippers will be the matchup in the NBA finals.

    I think Gerald Green is going to be the next big thing in the NBA.

    I hate John Saunders. I love Bill Walton. Kevin Harlen is the best broadcaster to ever live.

    And Tayshaun Prince is my favorite NBA Player.
    Yup, I have the same feeling about the Spurs. They have been over-rated for quite a while now. I could see them losing First Round.

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    bad article

    bad grammar

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    Why the will win:

    Because they have the most experience in the field(except Detroit) and hopefully they will be healthy by then.

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    his mother hates him too.

    otherwise, why would she have named him "Jonathon"...

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    Bull and here is why!

    If you take a look back to the NBA finals a few years ago with the Nets and Spurs, the main match-up was Kenyon Martin and Tim Duncan. Both great defensive players. Both guys get the majority of their points under the basket. Martin is the more intense emotional player, Duncan is more talented. If this is indeed the match-up in the first round of the playoffs this year, the Spurs should be very scared.
    Why should we be scared??? Tim beat his ass before, no need to think he won't do it again this year. This guy is just biased and expressing opinion reather than fact.

    You could arguably say the Nuggets are better at 3 of the 5 starting positions. Those positions being Point Guard, Small Forward and Center. Both teams like to run, but Denver does it better. If San Antonio gets into a running game, they may hang around but they will ultimately lose.
    And how on gods green earth did he arrive at this conclusion?? We played Phoenix at their own high paced running game and we beat them. Phoenix's running game is 10 times better then Seattle, yet the guy decides that the Spurs are going to lose the Seattle 'cause they can't play the running game. Its sad is what it is.

    Dallas Mavericks- Perhaps the deepest bench in the league, the difference between this team and Maverick teams in years past? Defense.
    After the last 2 games, I'm willing to declare our bench the deepest. Sure we have been "deep" throughout the season, but lately it has been more like in-"deep"- . These 2 games have proven our bench can perform when needed.

    Seattle Sonics- Although they've hit a mini slump, their outside shooting could cause the Spurs major problems. The only question would be if Ridnour is mature enough to run the team and win in playoff style basketball.
    I'm sorry, didn't we beat Seattle a week or 2 ago? Besides that so called slump is more like the friggin grand canyon as we approach the playoffs, and even if they do manage to recuperate, a healthy Seattle is no match to a healthy Duncan-Ginobili-Parker trifecta. If this team is playing THEIR basketball, you'd be hardput to find ANY team that can outplay them.

    Houston Rockets- This is a team that when at its best can beat you so many different ways. Yao is the X-factor.
    Yao is the X-factor?? Yao is , and has been in the last 2 encounters we've had with the Rockets. If anything I'd say beware Tracy!! The guy is known to go off on us, and specially on us! lol But still, if the Spurs play their defensive game, we shouldn't have anything to worry about. the championship is ours to lose.

    Guard play is good, you can't deny that. You can say they make a few head scratching plays, but at the end of the game they are going to have the solid output that the Spurs need. Chances are they won't dominate a game though
    Jesus, is this guy biased or what!! "chances are they won't dominate a game"??? what the is that!? Tony and Manu are more than capable of dominating a game!! We've seen it hundreds of times! Furthermore, he is assuming that his point about Kenyon beating Tim has been proven beyond reasonable doubt!! If anything is the other way around, Tim had proven that he can handle Kenyon quite well (2003 playoffs) I'm sorry but this article is messed up.

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    Don't quit your day job buddy....

    Tim Duncan is having one of his worst years statistically and he's still better than Martin, I'd take Tim Duncan on an off night over Martin on an on night, Timmy is a back to back MVP, Martin is a guy that's only known because he exposes his chest when he makes an emphatic dunk.....

    Also if Denver continues to play well we may wind up playing Houston in the first round.

    Bruce is averaging the most points he's ever averaged in his career, and with all the other guys the Spurs have eight points is plenty, don't forget Glenn Robinson.

    Also don't forget a guy like our backup center Nazr who had something like ninteen and fifteen the other night, numbers that would make Kenyon Martin green with envy....

    There are about a billion points I could counter in that article but I've got better things to do.....

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    this is bull......
    Denver vs. San Antonio
    Parker>Miller
    Lenard(?)/Demarr Johnson<Ginobili
    Anthony>Bowen
    Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>kenyon martin
    Camby>Nesterovic
    Advantage:Us
    Experience:US

    Bench: San Antonio

    San Antonio vs. Mavericks
    Parker >Terry
    Finley=Ginobili
    Bowen<Howard(except in some games)
    Duncan>Dampier
    Dirk>Nesterovic
    Advantage: Even
    Experience: Even

    Bench:EVEN (yes i said even )
    San Antonio vs. Phoenix Suns
    Parker=Nash(very unsure-an arguable question)
    Ginobili>Joe Johnson
    Richardson>Bowen
    Duncan>>>>>Amare and Marion
    Nesterovic<Amare
    Advantage:Even
    Experience: US

    Bench:US

    Seattle vs San Antonio (need I even DO THIS ONE?????)
    Ridnour<Parker
    Ray Allen/Rashard=Bowen/Ginobili(offense and defense)
    Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reggie Evans
    Rasho=James
    Advantage:Us
    Experience:US

    Bench:US

    As one can see, we can win any of these matchups. I know we can. We can beat Miami and Detroit too.

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    i think what the guy is trying to say is that when Martin was healthy in the first few games against us, he held up pretty well against us, however the games he was dominated he had the flu.

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    I think this guy is Mouse! He invents a new name every other day. Just look at Banjo Boy who says he is a Phoenix fan. (Thats Mouse )

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    Being a Detroit fan he should be more concerned with how pistons are going to get past Shaq.

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