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well, you saw wtf happened in bosnia when clinton kept trying to set timetables for pullouts.. 6 months, then 1 yr, then 18 month... then finally about 8 years later we left..
more:BloombergApril 12 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. has no exit strategy or timetable for withdrawing its forces from Iraq and a pull-out depends on the readiness of the Iraqi Security Forces, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said.
``We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy,'' Rumsfeld told soldiers during a surprise visit to Baghdad, according to a pooled broadcast report from the capital. ``The goal is to help the Iraqi Forces develop the skills and the capacity to provide their own security.''
The defense secretary arrived in Iraq today to meet with Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari and President Jalal Talabani, Captain Darren Luke, a U.S. military spokesman, said by telephone from Baghdad. He'll press the two, who were both elected by National Assembly members last week, to continue moves toward democracy, the Associated Press reported.
The U.S. currently has 150,000 soldiers in Iraq, the strongest foreign contingent there followed by the U.K., South Korea and Italy. Poland, which has 1,700 troops in Iraq, today announced it would recall its forces by year's end, Polish TVN24 television reported.
Victory strategy?!?
Apparently, this 'victory strategy' includes a generation or two in Iraq...
The NationNow comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan.
"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA's former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.
The fabled "exit strategy" may be not to exit. Thomas Donnelly, a defense specialist at the American Enterprise Ins ute, said the new communication system resembles those built in West Germany and the Balkans, places where American troops remain today. "The operational advantages of US bases in Iraq should be obvious for other power-projection missions in the region," Donnelly wrote in an AEI policy paper.
Next time the Bush Administration hints at withdrawing troops, keep these grand plans in mind.
It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."
- Donald Rumsfeld, February 7, 2003
well, you saw wtf happened in bosnia when clinton kept trying to set timetables for pullouts.. 6 months, then 1 yr, then 18 month... then finally about 8 years later we left..
I believe we're still in Bosnia.
And, your analogy is bogus anyway...
We'll remain in Iraq in the same way we remained in Germany after WWII. As an allied nation with a foreign base or bases there, contributing to the economy and providing allied support to the nation of Iraq while looking after national and allied security interests in the region...for as long as they would like us to be there.
we have like less than 200 troops in bosnia...
most germans that live near the americans love us and all the millions of dollars we bring to their economies.. it is the ones who don't live near bases who say we should leave the country.. i worked at 2 bases that closed down.. all the locals didn't want us to leave..
That's a presence.
Okay, I ask you to now look back at Germany in 1947-55...
Iraq will be the same and, it appears, on a much more compressed time schedule.
Of course we're supposed to take care of everything we took care of post-WWII in five months, if not it's obvious Bush is a failure[/dumb liberals]
We are there for years to come.
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Well,...there you go again.
Didn't say it was.
More time=more lives lost.
How is that NOT bad?
Praise Allah
We lost lives in WWI, WWII, Korea, etc. too. Guess we should quit.
Trouble is, Iraq is nothing like any of those conflicts. In fact, If you really want to draw comparisons to other foreign wars, Iraq is most like Vietnam. Launched because of false pretenses, and the loss of popular public support over time because of our ethical shortcomings and a lack of real rebuilding plan.We lost lives in WWI, WWII, Korea, etc. too. Guess we should quit.
Look at the prices at your local gas pump and tell me again that Iraq has been a complete victory.Of course we're supposed to take care of everything we took care of post-WWII in five months, if not it's obvious Bush is a failure[/dumb liberals]
As long as your not of draft age. :vomitThat's not necessarily a bad thing.
Well, you're thinking from a perspective of a sustained insurgency. That's not going to be the case. In fact, violence against American troops is dropping off faster than it has in any other major combat operation in which we were the victor and remained in country.
For example, World War II saw a sustained Nazi insurgency for seven years after Hitler's death.
Here's another perspective...
Karzai Wants Permanent U.S. Bases in Afghanistan
A continued presence in Afghanistan and Iraq as a military ally at the behest of the legitimate government of those countries is a good thing and, it serves our national security interests in the region.
Iraq has been a complete victory. There, satisfied?
There's not going to be a draft.
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