Holy cow!
Did the guy see that you saw him?
Tonight, while Jessica and I were watching a movie, we heard a noise outside of her window and in the bushes. She thought it was a cat, but I thought it was somebody who had stumbled into the bushes. I looked out the window to see a hispanic man standing around.
A few minutes later we hear a few more crashes in the hallway adjecent to her apartment.
Thinking it was one of Jekka's neighbors, we paid it no mind and simply went back to watching the movie.
Fast forward 30 minutes later, and we see a spotlight on the window for a minute. We wonder what it is and then I hear a helicopter circling. I call SAPD to find out that there has been a break in on a third floor apartment. The third floor apartment right above Jessica.
What we heard was the a potted plant falling from the balcony above while they were climbing up to the apartment. The man I saw was a lookout for the break in. And the crashes in the hallway we heard were them running after they got a VCR and a DVD player.
I gave the description (a lot of good it will do, it narrows it down to a few hundred thousand men in SA) to the police, and spoke to the guy who lived in the apartment. Nice guy, I'd spoken to him a few times before.
But the thing is now, Jess lives on the first floor. What the is to stop the same ers from trying something here?
Holy cow!
Did the guy see that you saw him?
Damn.
Make sure Jekka locks all doors and windows when by herself ... and a gun wouldn't be a horrible idea.
guns are great
i'd like a crowbar, or aluminum bat...
but for anyone to say you are wrong to want/have a gun doesnt even deserve to be responded to
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A pump action shotgun is the simplest and easiest to use for home defense.
Plus, just the sound of the pumping action is enough to send the phuckers running.
Jekka alright? Sucks losing that peace of mind when a crime takes place so close to home.
She's fine. For what it's worth I'm here with her a lot of the time, but still.
sounds like you need a ing dog too! screw picking up all those stray cats you guys take in...
How scary! Stay safe!
There are a lot more friends and family accidently and otherwise killed by guns(50-1) in the home than being used for killing prowlers.
That is a fact.
If you do not hunt, you do not need a gun.
A friend of mine lost his little brother when he was showing a gun to a friend and they thought the gun was on safety, and his friend shot him.
Happens all the time...you can read about it every day somewhere in America.
Lock your doors and windows, and do what you did, and that is to watch your neighbors' homes for them and vice versa....that is 100 times more effective.
get a gun manny and if someone breaks in to your place shoot to kill... maybe then you will support the death penalty!
Some facts:
Deaths and Injuries
Every eight hours a child or teen was killed in a firearm-related accident or suicide in 2001.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Health Statistics, "Deaths: Final Data for 2001." NVSR Vol. 52, No. 3. 116 pp. (PHS) 2003-1120.
Annual Totals (2001, 0-19 year-olds): Accidents=182, Suicides=928. (2001 is the most recent data available.)
On average, 4 children died every day in non-homicide firearm incidents from 1996-2001.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Health Statistics, 1996-2001.
From 1996-2001, more than 1,530 children were killed in firearm accidents.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Health Statistics, 1996-2001.
In 2002, there were 13,053 kids injured by a firearm -- and an additional 16,182 kids were injured from BB or pellet guns.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control and the Consumer Product Safety Commission, "National Electronic Injury Surveillance System All Injury Program," 2002.
On average during each of the last 10 years (1992-2001), 1,273 kids committed suicide with a firearm each year; more than 145 each year were kids under 15-years-old.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Health Statistics, 1992-1998, 1999-2001.
The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was nearly 12 times higher than among children in 25 other industrialized countries combined.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "Rates of Homicide, Suicide, and Firearm-Related Death Among Children -- 26 Industrialized Countries," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 46(05): 101-105, February 07, 1997.
Ownership
40% of American households with children have guns.
Peter Hart Research Associates, "Americans’ At udes on Children’s Access to Guns: A National Poll for Common Sense about Kids and Guns," July 1999.
Two in every five adults (39%) live in households where one or more guns are owned. One in every six live in households with a rifle and a shotgun and a pistol.
The Harris Poll, #25, May 30, 2001.
34% of children in the United States (representing more than 22 million children in 11 million homes) live in homes with at least one firearm. In 69 percent of homes with firearms and children, more than one firearm is present.
The RAND Corporation, "Guns in the Family: Firearm Storage Patterns in U.S. Homes with Children," March 2001, an analysis of the 1994 National Health Interview Survey and Year 2000 objectives supplement. Also published as Schuster et al., "Firearm Storage Patterns in U.S. Homes with Children," American Journal of Public Health 90(4): 588-594, April 2000.
38% of households in the U.S. have at least one gun and 24% contain a handgun.
Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, National Opinion Research Center, "Fall 1998 National Gun Policy Survey: Questionnaire with Unweighted Frequencies and Weighted Percentages," 1999. PDF files require Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Good thinking.
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you guys are just sooooo narrow minded!
those guys have a right to work hard earning a living too!
You figure that three guys had to spend time planning this thing, driving there, doing their job, driving away, and then re-selling the merchandise...lets face it..a used VCR and DVD with the serial numbers scratched off aren't exactly easy to get rid of...these poor industrious guys probably aren't even getting minimum wage for their effort...
I can't believe you guys want to further complicate their lives by shooting at them while they are struggling to "break in" to their chosen profession...
Buy some window locks and one for her patio door. Keep the light on all the time. I think you can buy some portable type alarm also.
Train the cats to become attack cats.
all your stats refer to kids... neither manny, nor his gf are kids... not sure how many kids they have in their home. but i would find little solace if someone broke into my home and i couldn't do anything to defend it bc i didn't have a gun... guns are like anything else... you must be responsible with them... how many kids have died in automobile accidents?
Here are a few facts Jim.
My dad has had a gun in house all of his life. I've had a gun in my house all of my life. My dad has never shot anyone. I have never shot anyone. There have been zero deaths at either residence.
If you are responsible, practice common sense, and follow ALL safety guidelines, gun ownership can be very safe.
Good for you.
That does not mean .
Do you have kids?
Are kids responsible?
Are Americans responsible?
Do you read the paper, listen to radio, watch tv news?
Those are the facts...they are not made up, and for you to site your own personal experience is irresponsible and nearsighted.
In Texas in 2002 2,301 people died from the use of firearms.
1,315 of those were suicides.
986 were either accidental or intentional excluding suicides.
In that same year in Texas alone 1,745 people died in drunk driving related accidents.
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) defines a fatal traffic crash as being alcohol-related if either a driver or a nonoccupant (e.g., pedestrian) had a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.01 grams per deciliter (g/dl) or greater in a police-reported traffic crash.(1)
Persons with a BAC of 0.10 g/dl or greater involved in fatal crashes are considered to be intoxicated. This is the legal limit of intoxication in most states.(1)
Drunk driving statistics continue to show that alcohol involvement remains the leading factor in motor vehicle deaths.(1)
I would definetly have a hard time having a loaded gun in the same house as a child. But with no children? It's not even a debate, I know what I'd do.
I appreciate your stats Jim, but I question their source, the context and how they were obtained. Many times when a gun deters a criminal, there are no stats for that. People dont' report situations for varius reasons, and untill they do you won't see accurate statistics for what a gun can actually accomplish.
I am glad you are against drunk driving, User, but what the does that have to do with guns killing children???
2 wrongs do not make a right.
I have a gunm, it is locked in a gun safe, but if there was an intruder in the middle of the night, I would not have time to go into my closet and do the combination, and take the gun out and shoot the er.
So why bother?
90 % of all house burglaries happen when the people are not home, so the gun does you no good. In fact, they usually steal your gun too, so now you have just supplied a gun to a potential felon who might use your gun in a felony.
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Manny, go talk to the police and let them give you their opinion on whether it is safer to have a loaded gun in your house.
Leave it to the people who know the real facts, ok?
At least do that for me.
How is siting my own experience irresponsible and neasighted? That is a ridiculous statement. MY experiences are just as real as the info in your tables. How many guns that were properly locked up and cared for have killed people? There is a far greater risk to the average person to be killed in an auto accident than by a firearm. Don't even start to look at nonfatal statistics.
You can safetly own a firearm if you respect what responsibilities that brings.
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