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The countdown to the destruction of the US economy and founding principles continues...
And a side note..
This one bill is 1502 pages?
The do ent that founded the entire country was 4 pages.
...and so it goes.
Finance Committee bill has been filed
Senate Finance Committee members have been notified that the committee's health reform bill was filed today. S. 1796 weighs in at 1,502 pages, according to a Senate Republican leadership source. It's still not up yet on the Finance Committee website or Thomas.gov. We'll post a link as soon as we get one.
UPDATED:
Read the entire 1,502 page Finance bill.
Read a do ent outlining the concerns of Sens. Kerry, Schumer, Menendez, Stabenow and Rockefeller that the tax on high-end plans will hit plans that are not overly generous.
Read Sen. Rockefeller's expanded views on reform.
UPDATE 2: The Senate Finance Committee filed its sweeping health care reform bill Monday and its release served largely to highlight the divisions among Democrats over the direction of reform.
The massive, 1,500 page bill is expected to serve as the backbone for Democratic reform efforts going forward and five senators expressed concerns about one of its main provisions, a 40 percent tax on high-end insurance plans.
The tax is designed to pay for reform and lower costs by making the so-called Cadillac plans less attractive for insurers to offer. Under the bill, a plan that costs an individual more than $8,000 and a family more than $21,000 annually would be subject to the tax.
But Democratic Sens. John Kerry, Chuck Schumer, Robert Menendez, Debbie Stabenow and Jay Rockefeller are concerned that the threshold that defines a Cadillac plan is too low and will whack middle-class people.
“We remain concerned that the thresholds are too low and will impact plans that are not overly generous and that in 2019 far too many plans will be impacted by the excise tax. We plan to continue to work with Chairman Baucus on this issue to ensure that provision bends the cost curve, but not at the expense of middle-income Americans,” the senators wrote in a one-page “additional views” do ent that was released with the bill.
The do ent is reminiscent of a dissent that is filed with the majority opinion in a court case.
Rockefeller filed his own 13-page additional views do ent that spelled out his concerns, many of which he aired during the eight-day mark up of the bill. The West Virginia Democrat remains concerns that the bill does not contain a public option; that it does not uniformly apply insurance market reforms and that state-based exchanges designed to help people buy insurance will not be as effective as a single national one.
UPDATE 3: It's important to remember that the bill won't exist in this form for long. Senate Majority Leader Reid and Sens. Max Baucus and Chris Dodd along with senior White House aides are merging the Finance and Health Committee legislation into one bill that will be considered on the floor of the Senate. The behind-closed-doors dealings have drawn criticism from Republicans, particularly because President Obama had promised a transparent process and pledged to negotiate the health care bill on C-SPAN.
The countdown to the destruction of the US economy and founding principles continues...
And a side note..
This one bill is 1502 pages?
The do ent that founded the entire country was 4 pages.
...and so it goes.
The countdown to the destruction of the US economy and founding principles continues...
Did you ever complain about the number of pages in a bill when the Republicans were in control of the government?
I'll go ahead and say no.
Get some sleep, your starting to talk to yourself.
I'm talking to you.
I notice you didn't deny it.
A kazooeyuke?
Doesn't the destruction of the US economy at least rate brass instruments?
You talking to me? You...talking...to...me!?
Just go ahead and say no...
Yes.
Did you ever post a complaint about the number of pages in a bill when Republicans controlled the government?
Who's complaining?
We're celebrating here!
Grab a kazoo.
I'm not asking what you are doing now.
Party pooper
So did you ever post a complaint about the number of pages in a bill while Republicans were in control of the government?
Do you really care...I mean...really?
I'll answer for you, no.
Talking to oneself seems contagious in the wee hours, eh?
back to celebrating the destruction of the US economy! Where'd my Kazooyuke go?
As I guessed.
I'm talking to you. You don't understand that?Talking to oneself seems contagious in the wee hours, eh?
How, specifically, will this bill destroy the US economy?back to celebrating the destruction of the US economy! Where'd my Kazooyuke go?
Ok, it's late, I can't sleep...I'll play for a bit here.
Destroying private enterprise, destroys what this country was built upon.
Is this a new concept for you?
"ok..ok...how does govt controlling the health care industry destroy private enterprise?"
How does govt destroy any private enterprise? By socializing it.
Next stupid question?
Hurry up here...I'm getting sleepy now that I put the kazooyukey away.
No, really, how does this bill destroy private enterprise?
How does the bill socialize it?
Ah, . My eye's are shutting, can't...stay...awake...any...longer.
You'll have to continue this..uh..discussion by yourself. But, you shouldn't make it a habit of talking to yourself. So, for your own good, and the good of the community at large...will you stop?
lol...
'nite then
I've been talking with you this entire time.
That's pretty much what I expect when I asked you for specifics.lol...
'nite then
I expected you to run away.
oh goodie, one more stupid question before I go to sleep.
This bill doesn't socialize anything. Govt spending billions and trillions in a sector and telling everyone what to do in that sector...has nothing to do with socializing a thing!
lol
I thought your stupid question warranted an equally stupid answer.
'niters
And brave Sir Robin ran away.oh goodie, one more stupid question before I go to sleep.
This bill doesn't socialize anything. Govt spending billions and trillions in a sector and telling everyone what to do in that sector...has nothing to do with socializing a thing!
lol
I thought your stupid question warranted an equally stupid answer.
'niters
With no strong public option (Medicare for everybody, no restrictions), then it's 1502 pages of .
"telling everyone what to do in that sector"
that "free market" sector is broken, with the insurers and care providers ripping off sick people, a stain on dysfunctional, diseased America.
This country was built on 1) prime land being taken from weak people who had no decent army and 2) the idiot French selling us Louisiana for a song.
The Indians were fighting each other for each's land way before we showed up. To the victors...
This country was built on a judeo-christian belief and a Protestant work ethic.
What does this have to do with a 1502 page healthcare bill?
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