Can we officially say Ian = bust?

[cheguevara]

Dude is gone for good IMO. won't crack the rotation ever. Might go to europe next year?

[WildcardManu]

Still young to be a bust.

[Mel_13]

The 28th pick, by definition, cannot be a bust.

[benefactor]

The 28th pick, by definition, cannot be a bust.

I'm trying to figure out why this is so hard for Spur fan to understand.

[cheguevara]

The 28th pick, by definition, cannot be a bust.

not a bust by conventional standard. But here in spurstalk for 2 years, he was projected to be starting center next to Duncan. So yeah, bust.

[Mel_13]

not a bust by conventional standard. But here in spurstalk for 2 years, he was projected to be starting center next to Duncan. So yeah, bust.

Ok, not an NBA bust, a SpursTalk bust.

[TheProfessor]

not a bust by conventional standard. But here in spurstalk for 2 years, he was projected to be starting center next to Duncan. So yeah, bust.

So, a bust in the eyes of a bunch of unrealistic fanboys.

(To be fair, I was one of them.)

[EricB]

not a bust by conventional standard. But here in spurstalk for 2 years, he was projected to be starting center next to Duncan. So yeah, bust.

So yeah no.

[rjv]

he was always and still is an NBA project.

[cheguevara]

So, a bust in the eyes of a bunch of unrealistic fanboys.

(To be fair, I was one of them.)

not quite. knowledgeable posters too. Timvp, bruno, cheguevara (),etc, etc.

not to mention the Spurs FO and Pop banked and expected him to be the starting Center by now.

[ChumpDumper]

Can we officially start duplicate threads?

[EricB]

not quite. knowledgeable posters too. Timvp, bruno, cheguevara (),etc, etc.

not to mention the Spurs FO and Pop banked and expected him to be the starting Center by now.

Uh link showing the interview or whatever stating this please? Thanks.

[Whisky Dog]

If he somehow cracks the rotation this year and contributes forcing the Spurs to get a new deal for him then no. If he does jack and is washed out of SA after this year then he is a Spurs 1st round project bust for sure.

[z0sa]

Whether or not he's living up to expectations depends solely upon those same expectations, which differ from person to person.


Bust.

[Whisky Dog]

Uh link showing the interview or whatever stating this please? Thanks.

I don't know about the starting center exactly but logic tells you the Spurs using a 1st round pick on the guy in 2005 would indicate they would expect him to be a contributor in 2009 - not declining the option on a guy who is in a suit behind the bench.

[lennyalderette]

this guy wont get good ..if ever until hes almost 30. slowly but surely he'll work his way up there. i think we could use him as trade bait though

[Flux451]

I'm trying to figure out why this is so hard for Spur fan to understand.

Probably because of the high hopes and expectations

[EricB]

I don't know about the starting center exactly but logic tells you the Spurs using a 1st round pick on the guy in 2005 would indicate they would expect him to be a contributor in 2009 - not declining the option on a guy who is in a suit behind the bench.

End of the first round picks are just like second rounders. Gambles.

A gamble does not =bust.

[beachwood]

Ok, not an NBA bust, a SpursTalk bust.

Yup, a SpursTalk bust. I was one who had high hopes for the guy. I still hope he pans out in some fashion. But after watching him in Summer League, he just didn't look good at all. And having the toughness of Mr. Glass doesn't help his case at all. I'd be surprised if the Spurs pick up his option.

[cheguevara]

Sounds like the Spurs' match for Amare Stoudemire. Stoudemire is going to be a top three player in the league soon, so the Spurs had to go out and get someone of his athletic build.

How can you doubt the Spurs draft brass? They always pull off gems.

If the Spurs feel good enough about him to give him guaranteed money, I'm guessing this is going to be a solid pick.

Damn LJ beat me to it.

His frame and skill set sound like a future Amare clone.

this guy rebounds better then scola

scola never gets 10 rebound games

[Flux451]

Diggin deep

[ElNono]

A gamble does not = bust.

A gamble gone bad does...
I don't care if they drafted him #55 in the second round. The Spurs believed in this guy enough to invest millions of dollars on him, including waiting him out for years, and odds are they're simply not going to get that investment back because he's simply not good enough.
I don't blame the Spurs one bit in drawing the line here. But at the same time, Ian had every opportunity to make this team and take advantage of the opportunities given to him, and because he IS a bust, he did not.

[EricB]

So Sam Presti failed at this draft pick then?

[EricB]

A gamble gone bad does...
I don't care if they drafted him #55 in the second round. The Spurs believed in this guy enough to invest millions of dollars on him, including waiting him out for years, and he's simply not going to get that investment back because he's simply not good enough.
I don't blame the Spurs one bit in drawing the line here. But at the same time, Ian had every opportunity to make this team and take advantage of the opportunities given to him, and because he IS a bust, he did not.

Faulty logic, but whatever makes you feel better.

[ElNono]

So Sam Presti failed at this draft pick then?

I don't think the pick was necessarily bad. Most of the time you don't know what you are going to get.
However, whoever looked at this guy later on and decided he was anything more than NBDL material screwed up, IMHO.