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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Do you think Game Six of the 2002 WCF was fixed?

    Los Angeles Lakers vs. Sacremento Kings

    1. Yes, it was fixed by David Stern and Bob Delaney

    2. Yes, it was fixed by David Stern, Bob Delaney, and Bavetta

    3. No, the game wasn't fixed

    4. Not sure


    Evidence and analysis here:

    VIDEO EVIDENCE

    Kings vs. Lakers, 2002 WCF Game 6, Part 1 of 3
    http://www.gazotube.com/LcS10rSrOhI.html

    Kings vs. Lakers, 2002 WCF Game 6, Part 2 of 3
    http://www.gazotube.com/ZlByVWEEXE8.html

    Kings vs. Lakers, 2002 WCF Game 6, Part 3 of 3
    http://www.gazotube.com/b0KJvlSUB-w.html

    NBA: Where Rigged Games Happens
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t5R...layer_embedded

    NBA Fixed
    http://www.video4viet.com/watchvideo...itle=Nba+Fixed

    WRITTEN EVIDENCE

    Ralph Nader and League of Fans' letter to NBA Commissioner David Stern regarding egregious officiating
    http://www.leagueoffans.org/sternletter.html

    A Professional Gambler's Take on the Tim Donaghy Scandal
    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...onaghy-scandal

    Excerpts From The Book The NBA Doesn't Want You To Read
    http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts...nt-you-to-read

    Reviewing the calls: Lakers-Kings Game 6
    http://www.82games.com/lakerskingsgame6.htm

    REPORT TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
    http://www.nba.com/media/PedowitzReport.pdf

    EXPERT ANALYSIS

    NBA is FIXED!
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98742

    Deadspin: Excerpts From The Book The NBA Doesn't Want You To Read
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137891

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    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    I didn't know it was broken

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    I didn't know it was broken

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    let's change history! Who's with me.....................let's go get some ice cream.

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    uups stups! Cant_Be_Faded's Avatar
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    Yes. I'll never forget watching that game. God I hate the Lakers.

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    5. Let's just stop talking about this.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    No, but calling that foul on Bibby for getting smashed in the face by Bryant's elbow at the end was shameful. Bavetta's an idiot.

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    Of course it was, and so were many games against us.

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    any games against the lakers on their court is always fix....

    fck themj

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    No, but calling that foul on Bibby for getting smashed in the face by Bryant's elbow at the end was shameful. Bavetta's an idiot.
    Bibby didn't get a foul on that play, but not calling it on Bryant was a travesty.

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    Yes it was slanted towards LA. Anyone who watched it knew it INSTANTLY.

    More importantly, I would similarly state the 2006 semifinals between San Antonio and Dallas was poorly officiated in favor of the Mavericks. The NBA did not want a Spurs-Pistons rematch.

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    Not sure I'd call it "fixed" in the sense the 1919 World Series was fixed. Sacramento missed some shots they could have made. The Lakers were going to the line a lot, but they did have Shaq and Kobe, who are two of the most un-guardable players around.
    I still believe that inb a 7 game series the better team wins, even if one ref in one game had it out for one team or another. But the NBA needs to do something to assure fans that the refs are fair and neutral.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    sorry, this was supposed to be a poll, but something f'd up.

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    As much as I hate the ing Fakers, the Spurs have certainly had their fair share of games go their way.

    I thik happens but there is no way to completely fix the game. If your team plays, you will win.... Covering the spread is a different story.

    Its all about the spread....

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    As much as I hate the ing Fakers, the Spurs have certainly had their fair share of games go their way.

    I thik happens but there is no way to completely fix the game. If your team plays, you will win.... Covering the spread is a different story.

    Its all about the spread....
    I think the spread is covered by the individual players themselves rather than the refs. I've seen spread breaking plays often enough on meaningless baskets to make me wonder.

    The spread might be something I would question, but not the 7 game series winners.

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    I think the spread is covered by the individual players themselves rather than the refs. I've seen spread breaking plays often enough on meaningless baskets to make me wonder.

    The spread might be something I would question, but not the 7 game series winners.
    Exactly.... the best team will win.... with a few exceptions that are highly questionable in the last 10 years.... Spurs vs Suns.... Lakers vs Kings.... Mavs vs Heat.... Mavs vs Spurs...

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    Im not sure it was "fixed", but there might have been influence to extend the "de-facto" finals.

    Not sure what this is doing in the Spurs forum.

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    2. Yes, it was fixed by David Stern, Bob Delaney, and Bavetta

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    It's a business. Lakers are good for business.

    So the real question is: how good are the Lakers for business?

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    It's a business. Lakers are good for business.

    So the real question is: how good are the Lakers for business?
    Its sad its like this.
    It should be sport more than entertainment
    Good sport brings spectators

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    Fixed or not, the perception of the lack of integrity in the NBA falls solely on the shoulders of David Stern. You either follow the rule book of basketball fairly and accurately as possible or you have something else.

    Subjective interpretations of the rules from "superstar rules" to "rookie rules", etc. serves no one but breeds skepticism, doubt and cynicism.

    And no one to date has ever once accused David Stern that the integrity of the NBA game was paramount over the marketing of the NBA or the pursuit of profit.

    It's that simple nor is it that hard to comprehend. And it will lead to public eventually turning its back on the NBA when it is finally and irrevocably perceived as "entertainment" instead of a sport.

    Stern should have been fired immediately after Doneghy. It happened on his watch and he should have been held accountable and wasn't. In that regard, yes the fix is in.

    Baseball understood this in 1919, the NBA will learn the hard way.

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    All energy focused on enjoying this season. What's passed is past. You'll go crazy playing the "what if" game.

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    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
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    People who believe Game 6 of the 2002 WCF wasn't fixed also typically believe the following:
    - ice skating isn't fixed
    - no boxer was ever paid to go down
    - there's no doping in cycling
    - ice hockey isn't all about brawls

    and so on and so forth.

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    Straya AussieFanKurt's Avatar
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    People who believe Game 6 of the 2002 WCF wasn't fixed also typically believe the following:
    - ice skating isn't fixed
    - no boxer was ever paid to go down
    - there's no doping in cycling
    - ice hockey isn't all about brawls

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