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    Den match up seems a lock. Down 19 already in AZ end of one quarter, and Sac is losing as well. Throwing ball away and look like a lost team.

    Even though Spurs lost a heart break tonight again Denver is toast. Bring em on.

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    Yeah, Denver seems to have lost momentum. I'll see your Voshon, and raise you a Big Dog.

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    Yeah, and Utah is beating Sacto too.

    Denver, they have lost their mojo.

    Bring em on.

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    That's the spirit! Although with Utah leading the Kings, 73-64, there's still a chance the Kings fall to 7th, right? Who owns the tiebreaker between the Kings and the Nuggets?

    Never mind, if both the Nuggets and Kings lose, then the Kings cannot drop, correct? (Looks like Kings own tiebreaker)

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    That's the spirit! Although with Utah leading the Kings, 73-64, there's still a chance the Kings fall to 7th, right? Who owns the tiebreaker between the Kings and the Nuggets?
    Kings do, they won the season series, 2-1

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    I pick "Suns are good."

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    Maybe this will calm down the Aggies and the Canadiens.

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    44 points in 1st Q????

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    Thanks Spurminator, glad somebody said it.

    Never occured to the thread starter that the Suns have won 61 games for a reason.

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    Loser teams lose to position themselves for the playoffs.

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    Suns have won 61 games for a reason.
    Goody for them.

    Have they started playing defense yet???

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    Suns are good but will know face a more confident Memphis team after tonight then the winner of Houston and Dallas.

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    Goody for them.

    Have they started playing defense yet???

    About 61 games ago.

    The Suns play average defense statistically but they can get stops when they need them. Suns defense is designed to force outside shots and get deflections that feed the fastbreak. They get lazy on defense sometimes and more often than not they get away with it.

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    The Suns play average defense statistically but they can get stops when they need them. Suns defense is designed to force outside shots and get deflections that feed the fastbreak. They get lazy on defense sometimes and more often than not they get away with it.
    Afraid to tell you skippy.


    That kind of defense gets you knocked out in the second round.

    Youll beat Memphis in 4 games, just because Memphis is terrible.

    But that wont beat the Rockets or Mavericks.

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    they can get stops when they need them
    Yeah, like the Spurs game where Ginobili, Duncan, Brent Barry got every shot they wanted???

    No question.

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    The Suns play decent defense. Don't let the PPG fool you.

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    Afraid to tell you skippy.


    That kind of defense gets you knocked out in the second round.

    Youll beat Memphis in 4 games, just because Memphis is terrible.

    But that wont beat the Rockets or Mavericks.

    I guess we'll see.

    But if everyone has to pick up thier game in the second season why not the Suns?

    The Suns flaw is rebounding, not on the ball defense.

    For Dallas or Houston to beat Phoenix they have to dominate the boards and shoot a very high percentage.

    Dallas scares me, as they should scare anyone, but I believe the Suns could beat either team in 7 games, skippy.

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    Yeah, like the Spurs game where Ginobili, Duncan, Brent Barry got every shot they wanted???

    No question.
    And the Suns were worn out in OT because they only played 6 players any minutes.

    Spurs depth beat a shorthanded Suns that night.

    What a great game that was. Spurs made some great shots.

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    Spurs depth beat a shorthanded Suns
    Who was hurt that night?

    For Dallas or Houston to beat Phoenix they have to dominate the boards and shoot a very high percentage.
    I disagree.

    They have to make the game a half court game, play good defense hold the Suns under 45 percent shooting, and take the ball at the Suns soft interior D.

    Slow the game down, play good D, agressive to the basket offense. Beats the Suns everytime.

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    Who was hurt that night?
    Suns traded three players and did not have Jackson available yet.

    Barbosa, the backup PG was injured. Suns only had 9 players available.

    The bench got 21 min total in an overtime game.

    The Spurs played 10 players, Manu had a career night, and the Spurs only won by 5 in overtime.

    Spurs had much more energy at the end of that game.

    If that game is your only example your perspective is skewed.


    I disagree.

    They have to make the game a half court game, play good defense hold the Suns under 45 percent shooting, and take the ball at the Suns soft interior D.

    Slow the game down, play good D, agressive to the basket offense. Beats the Suns everytime.
    OK, Skippy.

    How many times have they beat us so far? How many games have you watched the Suns play?

    Like I said, if Dallas and Houston can play better in the playoffs why can't the Suns do the same?

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    OK, Skippy.

    How many times have they beat us so far? How many games have you watched the Suns play?

    Like I said, if Dallas and Houston can play better in the playoffs why can't the Suns do the same?[/QUOTE]


    Suns have a huge lack of playoff experience especially with this year's unit, plus playoff style basketball wont suit the suns style of play at all. dallas and houston may not be playoff warriors but they both have the ability to grind it out much better than PHO

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    With that injury/lack of bench logic Sirchaz, Suns should win the le easily.

    I think the Suns had plenty chances to win that double OT game, they simply lost. Jim Jackson or no Jim Jackson, they were likely going to lose that game anyway.

    The Suns big three were doing pretty well, and Nash was in a passing groove -- even Marion hit a buzzer beater. Spurs got hot, turned up the D, and Phoenix stopped hitting everything.

    I'm not saying the Spurs are a lock to win should those two teams meet, but it would not be false to say the Spurs have played the Suns well this season irrespective of either teams injuries and lack of bench at any point in time.

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    The Suns play decent defense. Don't let the PPG fool you.
    At best.

    On offense they are one of the best in NBA history. If their defense was above average, they would be rivaling the Chicago Bulls of the mid 90s as one of the most balanced teams of all time.

    Their defense is reasonable at best if you factor the entire season.

    I definetly would not say its good, I would say its about average.

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    The Suns problem isn't defense, but defensive rebounding. They allow the most offesive rebounds per game of any team in the League.

    These rebounds negate defensive holds and pretty much make for easy baskets being that the Suns employ little size.

    They allow three extra possessions per game (over the NBA average) because of these rebounds and when coupled with the style of play, it's easy to see where the PPG come from.

    As for the style of defense being a bad fit, the Suns lead the league (or at least have for much of the season) in defensive 3-pt field goal percentage. They have little size inside, so in order to force their mismatches on offense, they pack the lane on defense and contest jumpers.

    If a team is hitting their shots, then the Suns struggle...if they aren't then the Suns typically win.

    Nothing wrong with playing to your strengths.

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    And the Suns were worn out in OT because they only played 6 players any minutes.

    Spurs depth beat a shorthanded Suns that night.
    Yep. Casey Jacobsen, Maciej Lampe and Jackson Vroman sure would have made all the difference in that game.

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