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Is he a 4th quarter closer. I don't think he is. He is very good and I don't mind making him 2nd option, but he's not a closer which your best player should be.
Richard Jefferson is our kobe. 2nd highest paid player on the team. Duncan is no longer the best player on the team due to age. Jefferson needs to be the new guy to carry the offensive load. parker 2nd but I think RJ was brought in to make our offense dominant and ginobili and duncan should be serving as just complimentary lethal weapons due to their propensity to injury. RJ has been the best guy on his team for the last 3 or 4 seasons so he fits the bill perfectly.
Is he a 4th quarter closer. I don't think he is. He is very good and I don't mind making him 2nd option, but he's not a closer which your best player should be.
He's closed almost every game of his career
As the go to guy on offense? I must admit I have never watched RJ much as when I did Bruce usually had him locked down.
Jefferson's lack of a step-back or spot-up jumper means that this will be a team effort.
Ginobili will always have the most complete offensive game.
but he can't deliver on a nightly basis anymore. jefferson has the whole game he's just not getting the touches with the other big 3 on the court
I guess im saying RJ should be the main guy during the flow of the game like kobe, but leave crunch time to the coldblooded players like ginobili and duncan
What do you do with Parker then?
let him be the point guard. he can score but focus on getting others involved and in a flow early and score later when/if needed kinda like Kori said earlier. He and Jefferson should be the top two options on offense
Jefferson isn't even close to being capable of being a #1 option on a decent team..he was brought in to be a #3-4 option, and that's what he should be..
Jefferson's ability to consistently create off the dribble in the perimeter isn't there..he doesn't have that kind of ability..
Parker is fine as a #1 scorer, and Duncan is fine as #2 scorer..I haven't seen anything to make me think otherwise..Parker is clearly fatigued, and Duncan has been good other than the Portland game where he was injured..those are great options to have..
There are only 2 other guys in the NBA on Kobe's level..we aren't going to find one of those..
Richard Jefferson wont do well trying to be the #1 Option on a Championship Team.
Tony Parker is basically our #1 Option, then Timmy, then Manu and then RJ. We only need Richard Jefferson to score 10-16 points a night. To limit our scoring droughts. To be another Offensive Weapon if our other guys are having trouble.
Changing our entire Team to fit around RJ would be a disaster and ruin our whole Team. RJ is a damn good player, so don't worry. He will get our system and he will learn how to insert himself into our Offense. Lately, he has been driving a lot more and getting to the Free Throw Line rather than settling.
you don't know about basketball. j/k
Ginobili is our 4th quarter "kobe".
Duncan is the go to player.
RJ was never the go to guy in New Jersey, Vince was and only by default in Milwaukee was he called on to play such a role, and they were a losing team.
It's early days, the big three are not even close to 100% and nor should they be in November. I'd be more worried if they were.
Last edited by hsxvvd; 11-15-2009 at 04:54 AM.
you guys are loaded. Ginobili and Parker can close out games. You got plenty of closers...no excuses.
RJ definitely needs to see more shot attempts, but he suffers from the same thing that keeps Ginobili coming off the bench. When you've got two team leaders and superstars like Tim Duncan and Tony Parker, they're going to demand shots. Not verbally, but it's a waste to have those guys on the court and not get them the ball. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave a whole lot of shot attempts left for Richard Jefferson, not to mention the rest of the squad on the floor.
Maybe the answer is to get Jefferson more time on the floor without either Tim or Tony. Maybe it's trying to get him the ball early and let him try to get a rhythm established. Whatever it is, Jefferson definitely looks like a completely different player when the offense is flowing through him, and when he's having to defer to two (and sometimes three) other players.
For some reason though, I just don't see Pop changing the Spurs formula (going through TP and TD) just to accommodate Jefferson.
This roster is fine, I believe. We just need to find the right rotations and simply drop some old habits.
Thats what ive been saying all along! Jefferson is the 2nd highest paid spur! If he isint our main weapon he best be our 2nd..why pay a guy so much money to just be one dimensional and stand around and wait for the ball.. we are already have one of those overpaid, one dimensionals in Michael Finley. Enough Said!
Please don't compare RJ to Kobe in any way.
Oh and Im still amazed at all the people here who think Timmy will be better than what he is showing right now. The guy has reached the maximum productivity that he will ever have. Give up those "he will get better" and "its early in the season" sayings. Its utterly pathetic to see so many spurs hopefuls setting themselves up in giving Tim so many high expectations. In the end you are just setting yourself up for utter dissapointment. Tim Duncans productiviy is fair right now and thats the way it will stay this year. And you know what Im okay with that because he isnt the main nor only weapon we have.
LOL. Duncan usually starts off slow every year. If you were an actual Spurs fan you'd know that. I am amazed that you don't even know the players on the team you supposedly go for.
He will definitely get better. I'm not saying he will get to MVP level, but he will play better.
I thought spur fans said manu was as good as kobe and compared him to him
Duncan has been fine this year, I don't know where a lot of people are seeing so many flaws from him so far..he's been especially good for a guy that didn't do much until preseason..
Agreed. This is his preseason. He looks better than I expected him to based on when he started working on the court this summer. He's a solid month behind his usual routine. Throw in the weight loss and getting used to playing in the brace and I have no worries about Duncan at this point. He'll turn it up slowly, and that's being done on purpose. Better he start slow and stay healthy than fade like he did last season after the strong start.
I don't know about RJ being our 1st option but... only 4 shots for him after a 29 point game??? WTF is that??
Parker needs to start looking for his teammates and get guys involved, that's the point guard's duty, he can do that and still get his points, but it seems to me that he's always looking for his own shot, and it pisses me off cause I know he can do a lot more better than that.
Until then, I think RJ should be coming off the bench so he can lead the second unit with Manu.
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