I read this on hoopshype.com. I don't pay much attention to that because they are only rumors but in what way will he become a Spur unless he takes the MLE. Whcih I highly doubt it because I think he will demand more either that or other teams will throw more money at him. If the Spurs would get him it would be a great addition but I highly doubt it.
That rumor keeps resurfacing over the last few years. He made over $14M this season. I too doubt he would take that huge of a pay cut to come to San Antonio.
He must really like the Spurs though, because that rumor has come up almost every summer for the last three or four years.
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Shareef Abdur-Rahim told reporters that it's too soon to think about where he's going to play next year. Be sure, it's not Portland. Whisper is, San Antonio is where he'll end up.
How many ex Hawks can Duncan put on his back before it breaks?
We gotta enough ex Hawks on this team...I'd rather us sign Big Dogg than Shareef.
And I call BS on that "whisper'...
SAR hates playing SF...he's said time and time againt that he is a PF, the Blazers refusal to play him at PF is why he wants out of there...
So we are to believe that SAR is going to take the MLE to play on the same team as the best PF in the NBA? I call BS.
On top of that...this guy has never made the playoff in his entire career...and he's played on some very talented teams...this guy is playoff kryptonite...I'd rather have the Big Dogg back...at least he got his team to the playoffs and coference finals...
I'd be fine with him as a backup big. I think he could still get 20-25 minutes, including some time on the floor with Duncan.
The only way I want SARS on this team is to come off the bench as a Robert Horry type. Starting him would make this team way too small.
Put Radosoft on the block and the sky's the limit...
SAR may have high statistical value but his suck factor migh be the highest of any player in the NBA....
You keep adding guys with a high suck factor like the Spurs have begun to do and you wind up looking like this years TWolves...a talented team that totally underachives.
I have nothing to back my view that SAR has a high suck factor(other than his ability to end 20 year playoff runs just by being on a team)...I just know that AC and Olowokandi have high suck factors...and look at what happened to Garnett...
Some players just suck and SAR is one of them.
What did Duncan do to deserve the hate from Spursfans?
True. That's why I named him in the overrated thread the other day.SAR may have high statistical value but his suck factor migh be the highest of any player in the NBA....
I wouldn't want Shareef as a Spur. I dont see him with the heart of winning but a guy that only looks out for himself.
He may be a nice player but that is virtually an impossible trade for the Spurs to make because of his salary. Spurs would have to cut the heart out of the existing team and probably even involve a third team just to get it done and adding another PF with Scola coming in doesn't really make any sense at all. I think that reporter in Oregon has been hitting the medicinal marijuana again...
He is the active player with most regular season games played without playing a playoff game.
I don't think he'll come for less than the MLE and I was under the assumption the Spurs would use it for Scola and Brown. I don't see how, unless they would take Rasho, but the already have someone similar in Pzbyilla.
He would be a nice addition off the bench, a quality back to the basket player coming off the bench.
I'm not going to defend SAR or argue that his "suck factor" should be diminished, but I dispute the notion that SAR has played on "some very talented teams," and that he's somehow a factor in those teams not making the playoffs.
Dude spent the first 5 years of his career on a Vancouver team that never even sniffed the playoffs -- a team that nobody ever accused of being particularly talented. (they had a few talented players (actually, other than SAR, they had Mike Bibby for a couple of years) but it's really hard to find much other talent on those rosters, evidenced by the fact that Big Country was generally the #2 scorer on SAR's Grizzlies teams).
He spent 2 1/2 years with Atlanta teams that had a few pretty good individual talents, but that was, again, never seen as being particularly talented (both full seasons that SAR was in Atlanta, Dion Glover was a top-5 scorer for those teams; having seen Dion Glover's offensive game up close here, I think I can rest my case).
He went to Portland last year after the already-dysfunctional Blazers began the purge of their roster.
I'm not sure you can accurately accuse this guy of being playoff kryptonite when he hasn't exactly been on teams that had any realistic shot of staying in the playoff race. I'll admit that he might have something to do with that, but for now, it's a little like saying that Cleveland won't ever make the playoffs with Lebron James around. A guy can only do so much.
I'm guessing the guy who "whispered" about it being the Spurs might have been Shareef himself. Who else says this at this point of the year? Here's a guy who's never played a playoff game - ever - looking at an attractive team. How is it going to happen, though? He doesn't like coming off the bench in Portland, is it really that different in San Antonio?
Spin it anyway you want...no one can prove he was the reason those teams sucked...but you can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he didn't make them any better...any of them, ever.
And the Blazers might have been dysfunctional, but that never stopped them from making the playoffs before he got there, all the Blazers did was trade him out for Rasheed...and they turned to one of the worst teams in the NBA when he got there...
This guy plays with zero fire...and the trend that has followed him has been his team being one of the worst in the NBA after he gets there...even when it was a team that had made the playoffs 20 years in a row...
Here's a general rule...if a lottery team doesn't want the guy for some reason...he probably sucks.
I'm not an expert on his career or game, but I don't buy that's he anything kryptonite. Mostly because I don't buy that about any good player. , David Robinson could have been labeled " le kryptonite" before Duncan came along, right?
How about this: when a good player (SAR) plays alongside a great player (Duncan), it's a good idea. But I don't think Pop would want to give up Manu or Tony to get him, and I doubt he'd play for the MLE, so it's pretty idle speculation at this point.
Prove this guy can help a team win.
Prove it.
Just show me a shred of evidence to indicate any team has been made better by his presence being added to it...
Just show me something..
At the very least he's the unluckiest mother er in NBA history...
And don't even try to use the Drob argument...if you took Drob off some of the Spurs teams he failed to win les with and replaced him with SAR, they'd have negative wins.
Suck factor is a very real factor...and anyone that has true feel for the game knows it is a very real thing.
It's not that hard to make the playoffs in the NBA.
I disagree, too, with the kryptonite thing. He may look lackluster at times because he's played for a long series of lackluster teams. Truly awful teams. Sure, there's the sense, Why were the teams so bad, if he was on them? But he's not a number 1 player, maybe not even a number 2 guy. He's certainly overpriced, but at a certain amount of scratch, he could help somebody.
That said, I don't think it's the Spurs.
I am not sure why most here 'hate' the guy but from what I have seen he is a pretty good player. Now I am not ready to say he can carry a team to a championship but he could add to the Spurs a bona fide scorer. This would obviously create a log jam of big men but to think of Tim (playing center) and Reef playing the 4 is salivating. Shareef is an athletic big with skills so if he wanted to some to San Antonio I would be all for it. Obviously the roster would have to be tweaked but in this scenario the Spurs would have an extra center ,if you will, with rasho and Nazr..anyone wonder what a starting center with a reasonable contarct would be worth on the trade market? Let's face it the Spurs have been a team that will cut ties with fan favorites if they think another player will help them. Would anyone be willing to replace Shareef for Scola? I would.
He's played on teams with other All Stars on them before...he's played on teams that have other guys that are key components to le contenders this season...he's played on teams that have a legitimate 1 guy before(legitimate to the tune of making it to the conference finals)
The only common denominator between all the crappy teams he has played has been him...
He's a zero on the W-L scale...I don't care how many PPG and Rebounds he gets.
Case in point...
When he got traded to Portland all he did was whine about the way he was used...
If I was a big a loser as this mother er has been...I'd have been doing whatever my team wanted me to do...especially if it was a team that had made the playoffs 20 something years in a row.
The guy has gotten a lot of money to play for some truly dismal teams. If you don't think the Grizzlies, Hawks and Blazers were train-wrecks and instead see fit to dump the failures of all three franchises on Shareef then good luck with that.
It's entirely possible he's ready to play for peanuts for a year or more with a good team, just to wash the loser off him. The Spurs don't need him, so if that's his plan he'll have to look elsewhere. I'm sure Mark Cuban will be happy to pick him up.
"Whispers" at this point are completely meaningless. Barring a playoff meltdown, the Spurs' plate seems pretty full -- the Spurs might not even keep their pick at this point. Nice to know SA is a little higher on the FA rumor radar, though.
Good I hope Cuban does pick him up...I'd celebrate the Mavs crash and burn.
He doesn't improve teams, he doesn't help them win.
Show me evidence that he does...you don't have to show me playoffs...just show me a team improve after he gets there...if he can help a team win you should be able to find some evidence of it.
Whott are you stupid? I am trying to follow you using your 'analytical' thought process about rahim..the dude has played for vancouver, atlanta, and portland...how can you call him a loser? he has played for losers but does not make him one himself. One example to prove my point.. Corey Dillon played for the bengals for 8 years and according to your argument he is a loser..now that he jumped on the patriot bandwagon he is a winner..same player different team..comprende?
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