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    Pau Gasol is getting a taste of what it's like playing with another 7 footer in the starting lineup. Something Timmie has experienced most of his career in the NBA. Gasol will put up monster numbers nightly. He will be defended by much smaller players most nights. There are only a handful of teams in the NBA that will be able to match up to the towers. Gasols ppg, asst, rebounds, block shots will all go up because of his height advantage over smaller players and his freedom to roam with another 7 footer in the post. What makes Pau so unique is that he can defend PF's on the perimeter as well. He is just about as complete as you can get from that position.

    So when the Lakers win 3 or 4 more les and Gasol has monster stats, will he now be included in discussions on the greatest power forwards to ever play the game?

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    ROFL. Gasol on lakers team = farce. You can have whatever les or championships you want but they all come with an * while gasol is a laker

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    So when the Lakers win 3 or 4 more les and Gasol has monster stats, will he now be included in discussions on the greatest power forwards to ever play the game?
    Maybe if he learned to play a little defense. As in, maybe if he became the best defender ever at the PF position. You know, like Duncan is now.

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    Pau Gasol is getting a taste of what it's like playing with another 7 footer in the starting lineup. Something Timmie has experienced most of his career in the NBA. Gasol will put up monster numbers nightly. He will be defended by much smaller players most nights. There are only a handful of teams in the NBA that will be able to match up to the towers. Gasols ppg, asst, rebounds, block shots will all go up because of his height advantage over smaller players and his freedom to roam with another 7 footer in the post. What makes Pau so unique is that he can defend PF's on the perimeter as well. He is just about as complete as you can get from that position.

    So when the Lakers win 3 or 4 more les and Gasol has monster stats, will he now be included in discussions on the greatest power forwards to ever play the game?

    I wasn't aware Duncan's career was dependent on being able to play next to Nazr Mouhammed Fabricio Oberto and Rasho Nesterovic.

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    Poor comparison, but Gasol is the perfect fit for LA, he doesn't need to be a great defender with athletic guards (outside of fisher the grabber), and Bynum. Duncan can anchor a team, Gasol doesn't need to.

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    Maybe if he learned to play a little defense. As in, maybe if he became the best defender ever at the PF position. You know, like Duncan is now.
    So you're ok with that? Even though Gasol is a center and still plays the center position for the lakers you would include him in the discussion of Best PF to play the game?

    My Duncan = Gasol is based on the position and cir stances of the two players only. It's identical.

    I am Hypothetically speaking about future stats and how you would rank them.

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    Maybe if he learned to play a little defense. As in, maybe if he became the best defender ever at the PF position. You know, like Duncan is now.
    This particular topic is silly.

    But as for Duncan being the best defender ever at the PF position, I think that's an interesting debate between him and KG. I realize there's a bias here, but I think there's easily an argument for KG. Tim is a better shot blocker and help side defender and a little better rebounder and post defender. KG is a more versatile defender, can guard many small forwards and even some guards effectively; he's better at going out on the perimeter when matched-up on a quicker forward or having to switch on a perimeter player, can pressure the ball full court, gets more steals, and is a more vocal team defender. Before 2007-08, I would have said Tim is easily the better team defender, but I think KG's team defense was somewhat underrated until he was on a team with better defensive coaching schemes and teammates that all bought into playing team defense.

    I'll ride the fence on this. I'm not saying Tim isn't the best defensive PF ever. I'm saying it's debatable between him and KG, and I wouldn't fault someone claiming it's KG over Tim. If we look at accolades, and it's definitely not the determinative factor, but they both have 8 first team all NBA defense team honors, Duncan with 3 second team all defense and KG with 2 second team all defense, while KG has two more years in the league. But, KG also has a DPOY, whereas Duncan probably should have at least one, but doesn't.

    I think it's actually a pretty interesting debate.

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    I think it's actually a pretty interesting debate.
    Well, then what you should do Jammie, the next time you leave your refrigerator box the Spurs erected for you,,,thread such a debate. This thread is intended to erect Gasol upon the dais a couple inches higher than Duncan.

    Savvy?

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    tee hee

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    This particular topic is silly.

    But as for Duncan being the best defender ever at the PF position, I think that's an interesting debate between him and KG. I realize there's a bias here, but I think there's easily an argument for KG. Tim is a better shot blocker and help side defender and a little better rebounder and post defender. KG is a more versatile defender, can guard many small forwards and even some guards effectively; he's better at going out on the perimeter when matched-up on a quicker forward or having to switch on a perimeter player, can pressure the ball full court, gets more steals, and is a more vocal team defender. Before 2007-08, I would have said Tim is easily the better team defender, but I think KG's team defense was somewhat underrated until he was on a team with better defensive coaching schemes and teammates that all bought into playing team defense.

    I'll ride the fence on this. I'm not saying Tim isn't the best defensive PF ever. I'm saying it's debatable between him and KG, and I wouldn't fault someone claiming it's KG over Tim. If we look at accolades, and it's definitely not the determinative factor, but they both have 8 first team all NBA defense team honors, Duncan with 3 second team all defense and KG with 2 second team all defense, while KG has two more years in the league. But, KG also has a DPOY, whereas Duncan probably should have at least one, but doesn't.

    I think it's actually a pretty interesting debate.
    Why didn't you just start your own thread and topic, dip ? This is not about KG and Duncan. Your input here was not mandatory.

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    Well, then what you should do Jammie, the next time you leave your refrigerator box the Spurs erected for you,,,thread such a debate. This thread is intended to erect Gasol upon the dais a couple inches higher than Duncan.

    Savvy?
    Cool, Cul.


    Why didn't you just start your own thread and topic, dip ? This is not about KG and Duncan. Your input here was not mandatory.
    Next time something like that happens, ignore it. It's rather simple.

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    Next time something like that happens, ignore it. It's rather simple.
    Follow your own advice.

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    I wasn't ing about your post, just responding to it.

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    I wasn't ing about your post, just responding to it.
    Next time something like that happens, ignore it. It's rather simple.

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    Jammie= charter bag man for the Spurs. And all it required was for Horry to shoot Wallace in the head. The stupid ass wanted to see what it felt like for CWEBB.

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    Next time something like that happens, ignore it. It's rather simple.
    I didn't have a problem with your post. I was merely responding to it.

    Is there something you don't understand about that?

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    Jammie= charter bag man for the Spurs. And all it required was for Horry to shoot Wallace in the head. The stupid ass wanted to see what it felt like for CWEBB.
    Culburn = constantly on Piston fan because of the 2004 Laker ass-raping.

    Take a break every few minutes to catch a breath, and maybe you can suck on it for even longer.

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    I definately agree with OP, it amazes me how ignorant some of these spurs fans are. They never give credit to where its due. Ya Duncan has 4 ing rings but he did it with load of help. Gasol is doing the same so if you wanna crown Duncan as the greatest Gasol might as well be in the talks a few years from now.

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    This is nice for you Spurs fellows, Jammie doin' yer wet work for ya's.

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    Culburn = constantly on Piston fan because of the 2004 Laker ass-raping.

    Take a break every few minutes to catch a breath, and maybe you can suck on it for even longer.
    Kaaaaaaaaablllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Jammie just blew out his flip flop. I knew I'd get off that high horse and down in the caca with the rest of us.

    ha, ha.

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    This is nice for you Spurs fellows, Jammie doin' yer wet work for ya's.
    It tastes that good huh?

    Keep at it, Cul.

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    Kaaaaaaaaablllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmm! Jammie just blew out his flip flop. I knew I'd get off that high horse and down in the caca with the rest of us.

    ha, ha.
    Cradle the balls.

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