Global Warming is real

[nuclearfm]

Both Solar Activity and Co2 concentrations effect this, to say the least.

Deal with it.


- PhD

[SouthernFried]

There is a cure for you nuclear...



1 tablespoon. 3 times a day. Call me in a week.

[SouthernFried]

And for those who don't want to take the cure...

Guidelines.

[SouthernFried]

And...for the most skeptical of us.



Yes...I believe!

Amen

[Jacob1983]

People should just stop using planes, trains, and automobiles right? And everyone should buy a sail boat just in case.

[DarrinS]

Someone saying it's real is good enough for me. You don't need empirical evidence -- just faith.


Sincerely,

AGW Lemmings

[doobs]

I thought you were leaving.

[spursncowboys]

Do cows and volcanoes "warm" earth more than humans?

[EmptyMan]

Have a safe trip in your non-co2 emitting plane Obama.

[Wild Cobra]

Funny how it is never addressed how a small increase in ocean temperature can increase CO2 in the air, and why our CO2 isn't sinked into the ocean.

Let's start with the wiki carbon cycle model:



Please note it starts with 750 GtC in the atmosphere and 39120 GtC in the ocean. This totals 39870 GtC. 1.88% of it is in the atmosphere and 98.12% is in the ocean. This is a 52.16:1 ratio and about 380 ppm.

Next year, we add 8 GtC and the ocean absorbs 2 of it. We Now have 39878 GtC with 1.90% of it in the atmosphere (756 GtC) and 98.10% in the ocean (39112 GtC). This is a 51.75:1 ratio and about 383 ppm.

Another year, we add 8 GtC and the ocean absorbs 2 of it. We Now have 39886 GtC with 1.91% of it in the atmosphere (762 GtC) and 98.09% in the ocean (39124 GtC) . This is a 51.34:1 ratio and about 386.1 ppm.


Another year, we add 8 GtC and the ocean absorbs 2 of it. We Now have 39894 GtC with 1.93% of it in the atmosphere (768 GtC) and 98.07% in the ocean (39126 GtC). This is a 50.95:1 ratio and about 389.6 ppm.

See, as the temperature increases, the ocean holds less and less, percentage wise. If man did not add any CO2 at all, the percentages would still change with temperature. CO2 would change as follows:

Start 39870 GtC, 750 (1.88%) in the air, 39120 (98.12%) in the ocean, about 380 ppm

First year, 39870 GtC, 755.8 (1.90%) in the air, 39114.2 (98.10%) in the ocean, about 382.9 ppm

Next year, 39870 GtC, 761.7 (1.91%) in the air, 39108.3 (98.09%) in the ocean, about 385.9 ppm

Next year, 39870 GtC, 767.5 (1.93%) in the air, 39102.5 (98.07%) in the ocean, about 388.9 ppm

Please note that the ratios also change like the first four examples and the ocean is now a net source, of 6 GtC annual. That's what warming does.

Look at it as quan y and ratios. Not simple addition and subtraction. Solubility of CO2 increases as water cools and decreases as water warms.

Now. lets assume there is no ocean warming. That the ocean maintains the 1.88% in the atmosphere and 98.12% in the ocean.

Start 39870 GtC, 750 (1.88%) in the air, 39120 in the ocean, about 380 ppm

First year, 39878 GtC, 750.2 in the air, 39127.9 in the ocean, about 380.08 ppm

Next year, 39886 GtC, 750.3 in the air, 39135.7 in the ocean, about 380.15 ppm

third year, 39892 GtC, 750.5 in the air, 39143.5 in the ocean, about 380.23 ppm

100 years later, 40670 GtC, 765 in the air, 39905 in the ocean, about 388 ppm

Makes a big difference is the ocean is changing temperature or not!

[Spursmania]

Global warming

[Höfner]

global warming needs to light my cigarette.