ALL-TIME Team Debate

[remingtonbo2001]

My co-workers and I selected our All-Time teams, with the exception being each player is considered in their prime and no one could choose Jordan.


Paul's Team
STARTERS BENCH
PG-Magic PG-NAsh
SG-Kobe SG-Miller
SF-Pippen SF-Erving
PF-Garnett PF-Brakley
C- Shaq C-Yao

Bo's Team
STARTERS BENCH
PG-Stockton PG-Billups
SG-Manu SG-Bowen
SF-Bird SF-Wilkins
PF-Duncan PF-Oakley
C- Robinson C-Sebonus

Frank's Team
STARTERS BENCH
PG-Pistol Pete PG-AI
SG-Lebron SG-Wade
SF-Carmelo SF-Malone
PF-Dirk PF-Kareem
C- Dwight Howard C-Olajawon

All things considered, individual talent, ability to play aside on another, offense, defense, ect. Which team is the greatest? What about bench play? Consider whole team?

[IronMexican]

Paul's team.

[DBryant88]

+1 Paul

[resistanze]

The third team is out of the running clearly. It's close but Kobe/Shaq with Magic and Pippen and KG is too much.

[sonic21]

are you Bo?

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franks is brutally good offensively

bos team makes it pretty clear hes a spurs fan

pauls team is most balanced

[Spursfan092120]

I actually really like Frank's team...Pistol Pete is arguably the best offensive player of all three groups...but defensively, the group as a whole would have had problems..

[21_Blessings]

Paul's team could arguably beat any other All-Time team assembled. Perfect balance of offense, defense and mismatch ability.

Although Shaq's ego would implode and would kill the team first.

[The Gemini Method]

Shaq: "So tell me, Pippen, how my ass taste"

[remingtonbo2001]

I wasn't basing my decision so much on individual talent, but the player's abilities on offense and defense, and how their abilities would maximize other player's abilities. I will agree that Paul's Magic pick is essential, as Magic could post up Stockton all-day long. However, Shaq's in the post, is that really an option?

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I will agree that Paul's Magic pick is essential, as Magic could post up Stockton all-day long. However, Shaq's in the post, is that really an option?

and stockton would be blowing past magic every time down the court as well. magics defense was atrocious and there is no way he can guard any really quick PGs. imagine him trying to guard CP3 or TP? it would be just as hard for him to guard them, as it would be for them to guard him. he is a big offensive mismatch but creates a problem with a big defensive mismatch as well.

[ginobili's bald spot]

#1 Paul's team

#2 Frank's team

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..#3 Bo's team

[21_Blessings]

What the is this Frank thinking taking Dirk and Melo?

If was Frank I'd ditch Melo for Barkley and Dirk for Mchale. You get a much needed post presence and become the best rebounding team...ever assembled.

edit: lol Manu

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dirk >>> mchale

[ginobili's bald spot]

dirk >>> mchale

I agree. Maybe not 3 >>> but he's definitely better.

[21_Blessings]

dirk >>> mchale

Spell defense for me. Just try.

[dirk4mvp]

Dirk > Mchale

[dirk4mvp]

Spell defense for me. Just try.

He's not the defender Mchale was, but it's not 2003 anymore either.

[21_Blessings]

Dirk is a jump shooting PF with mediocre defense. Mchale's defense is on a whole different stratosphere.

One of the greatest low-post games ever. Elite PF defender with stupid inhuman length.

Seriously, kids these days.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Dirk is a jump shooting PF with mediocre defense. Mchale's defense is on a whole different stratosphere.

One of the greatest low-post games ever. Elite PF defender with stupid inhuman length.

Seriously, kids these days.

And yet somehow as a jump shooting PF he has managed to be a far more efficient offensive player than Frankenstien with his great post game and inhuman length. All while playing with far less talent around him.

[JamStone]

Paul's team and rather easily.

Magic would defend one of the swing players on opposing teams, much as he did in his prime, where Cooper and Scott would take the quicker PGs. Kobe and Pippen in their respective primes could guard the majority of quick guards, and the ones they can't would pretty much have their way regardless of who was guarding them. Aside from Magic, the rest of the team is pretty solid defensively, even Shaq in his prime was an adequate defender at center. Not great by any stretch, but not a liability. And, Pippen, KG, and Kobe are so good defensively, that as a team, they shouldn't have too many problems.

Offensively, that's about as nice as you can get. Shaq dominating down low, an elite perimeter scorer like Kobe, a big man playing next to Shaq who can hit midrange jumpers, Pippen who can is versatile and won't need a lot of touches, and a point guard who distributes the ball well. Only thing lacking is a three point specialist who hits 40%+ from long distance. But, it's a very small critique for that group offensively because how dominating they would figure to be.

It's Paul's team and by a wide margin, imo.

[resistanze]

Dirk + Bird + Parrish...Hmmm...

[21_Blessings]

And yet somehow as a jump shooting PF he has managed to be a far more efficient offensive player than Frankenstien with his great post game and inhuman length. All while playing with far less talent around him.

.47% career shooting vs .55% is more efficient? What math is that?

Seriously have you ever watched Mchale actually play? Put Dirk on the those Celtics team and they are not winning a le in 84/86. Dirk isn't even 1/4th the post defender Kevin Mchale was.

Take your pick Dirk, Hakeem or Sampson. Good luck.

[badfish22]

Pauls team. Franks team will probably be considerd the best in 5 years, once we know how good Lebron and Dwight will be.

[ginobili's bald spot]

.47% career shooting vs .55% is more efficient? What math is that?

Ever hear of 3 pointers? They are worth more points than 2's but you usually shoot a lower percentage. That doesn't equate to less efficiency.


Dirk's PER since 2004

26.1

28.1

27.6

24.6

23.1

26.2




McHale ONE time in his entire career had a PER greater than 22.


Once.