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I haven't noticed..
28 frigging turnovers against the Bobcats?
Is it me or the Spurs havent been protecting the rock well this season and thats a big cause of our problems as well.
I haven't noticed..
A handful of them are from the players being too unselfish. The other turnovers...
They're costing wins against good teams, and keeping bad teams in the game.
Its getting ridiculous.
I say its bc of all the new faces, but even more its with the constant changing lineups. Never in the tim, tony, manu era have there been so many different line ups game to game
Duncan, post game.
http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/091211_duncan.html
This just in! Breaking news!
I've said it before and it bears repeating. There is absolutely no excuse for a veteran team, like the Spurs, to amass the rash of turnovers that they do from game-to-game. I don't give a about new players and system familiarity, because it seems the longest-tenured players are making the most mistakes. Parker in particular.
The book is out on the Spurs as being a turnover-prone team. Which means that every team opponent will continue to make attempts to strip, swipe, rake and whatever else they must do to force them into turnovers. This doesn't take in account for the stupid, bone-headed, unforced turnovers the Spurs make on their own.
This team needs to concentrate more on making good decisions and minimize the careless mistakes.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 12-12-2009 at 06:33 AM.
Well, it helped that the Bobcats had 20+ turnovers also, but the good teams will not give you that luxury.
Bobcats 3rd in the league in defensive efficiency had some to do with that. Plus Parker learning (yeah "learning") to be a better distributor. I'll accept that "learning" curve if it helps the team become a better ball movement team in the near future.
If this is still a problem by the end of February...then I'd be very concerned.
yea...i noticed serveral times dice kicks it out when he's right underneath the basket...sometimes he finds people but most of time it results in turnovers
Most turnovers are sloppy, unfocused play. Duncan had several bad passes last night. Tony is losing the ball with regularity. 28 turnovers in one night is a joke. Spurs teams used to have that many in a week or a month.
Sometimes it feels like these guys don't have the intensity a team with a deep bench needs to play with night after night. There is no killer instinct, just a bunch of guys out there playing.
Maybe they sub-consciously think they are better and don't try as hard. Pop better get them focused like the 1999 club. That team was focused. Even when behind in the 4th you somehow had the feeling that they would pull it out every time.
This team is sloppy and it shows in the w/l column.
That, and the fact that the Spurs shot lights out, kept us up most of the night, and allowed us to pull away.
Tony has gotten terrible on the kickout pass. There have been a number of times there's a man open on the wing, he drives in, and kicks out a pass...that is SO HIGH Shawn ing Bradley wouldn't have caught it. Memo to Tony: Bogans is 6'4" and Manu is 6'6".
<------7 by this prick alone. I swear he has to have at least 15 turnovers the past couple games. He needs to get his ing head in the game and stop thinking about Eva banging his bro.
parker cannot not travel 4 times a game
at least last year he only traveled 3 times a game
Maybe Pop needs to take the reins back and call the plays for a while. Tony just isn't making good decisions. His asst/TO ratio of 1.82 isn't even acceptable for a shooting guard, and is the lowest of his career.
If the team practices running the break then hopefully some off these mistakes will come down. Then again, maybe they already are and we just completely suck at fastbreaking.
As boring as it sounds I think the team should just grind the game down and make it ugly and focus on perfecting the half-court offense. A lot of these mistakes seem to come from pushing the tempo. I'm not sure if we have anyone who can direct the break properly.
I think we should continue to focus RJ on the offense but I'm torn about us trying to get "easy" baskets because it seems to be causing us problems, and perhaps, taking us away from a defensive priority.
are you kidding me? i know you've been around but you must not have been paying attention the last several years
Turnovers? No way...not buying it.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but it has to start with Tony. The double-dribbling, traveling, and sloppy passing has got to stop. He can't be firing passes ten feet above people's heads, there's no excuse.
If it's not Tony, It's Timmy, or it's Manu. Our big three are the guys who set the tone, and they usually take turns leading the team in turnovers. And it's always the same kind, Tim throwing it to no one in particular, or turning into a pack of defenders and flailing his arms without the ball. With Tony he drives it in and comes up flailing without the ball, or he dribbles into the paint gets stuck and travels. And with Manu it's the lean back almost falling bounce pass to the other team or his trying to break through a double team without the ball which is usually going the other way. It's like deja vu, or the matrix going haywire.
Those all piss me off, especially since they all lead to a fast break the other way.
I have been noticing this alot the past 2 seasons and it seems to be getting worse now. rather then trying to protect the ball when an opponent gets a hand on the ball they just flair their arms strait in the air.
Hopefully they will eventually see this when they watch game footage and try to adjust it.
Last edited by Chomag; 12-12-2009 at 01:50 PM.
There were maybe 6-7 blown breaks. That still leaves 20+ turnovers, which is unacceptable. It's much more than just TOs on the break.
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