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  1. 12-30-2009 #1
    hater
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    You gotta give this one to the spurs.

    Spurs would win more w/out 2 out of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili

    over
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    Celtics: Garnett/Pierce/Allen
    Mavs: Dirk/Kidd/Terry
    Suns: Nash/Amare/Richardson
    Cavs: Lebron/Mo/Shaq
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  2. 12-30-2009 #2
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    Lebron made it to the finals in 07 without Shaq or Mo no?
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  3. 12-30-2009 #3
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    LeBron would probably be the only other guy that could contend with us because he has shown he can get pretty far in the playoffs without a big star next to him and Kobe couldn't do alone, so he's out.
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  4. 12-30-2009 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacker
    Lebron made it to the finals in 07 without Shaq or Mo no?
    well I was talking about regular season. No team would advance to the finals w/out 2 or their big 3.

    BUT, I put the Cavs w/Bron a close second to the SPurs
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  5. 12-30-2009 #5
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    We have a big three?

    I thought we had a big one.
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  6. 12-30-2009 #6
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    Cavs.
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  7. 12-30-2009 #7
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    If you switch out Shaq/Z/Andy with Pau/Bynum/Odom, how good are the Cavs?
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  8. 12-30-2009 #8
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    cavs would have this one... james did go to the finals without mo and shaq. i wouldn't consider mo and shaq part of anything "big" though.
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  9. 12-30-2009 #9
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    damn, yeah Blazers/Spurs would be a good matchup
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  10. 12-30-2009 #10
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    ok this is cavs easy.
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  11. 12-30-2009 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    damn, yeah Blazers/Spurs would be a good matchup
    And don't forget the rockets
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  12. 12-31-2009 #12
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  13. 12-31-2009 #13
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    What makes the spurs contenders?
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  14. 12-31-2009 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginobili's bald spot
    What makes the spurs contenders?
    They aren't.
    Homers just can't accept the truth
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  15. 12-31-2009 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPG21920
    If you switch out Shaq/Z/Andy with Pau/Bynum/Odom, how good are the Cavs?


    That's frightening.
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  16. 12-31-2009 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginobili's bald spot
    What makes the spurs contenders?
    they are 4th in Hollinger's rankings
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  17. 12-31-2009 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by hater
    You gotta give this one to the spurs.

    Spurs would win more w/out 2 out of Duncan/Parker/Ginobili

    over
    Lakers: Kobe/Gasol/Artest
    Celtics: Garnett/Pierce/Allen
    Mavs: Dirk/Kidd/Terry
    Suns: Nash/Amare/Richardson
    Cavs: Lebron/Mo/Shaq
    um, no.

    im taking the celtics, because all three of them have been #1 players that lead a team to the playoffs. so at least you have one of them.

    parker and ginobili have never been a true #1 that led a team without any other real stars to the playoffs.
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  18. 12-31-2009 #18
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    It depends on which two of the three are gone. Everybody is saying the Cavs but if one of those two is Lebron they're ed.
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  19. 12-31-2009 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch
    um, no.

    im taking the celtics, because all three of them have been #1 players that lead a team to the playoffs. so at least you have one of them.

    parker and ginobili have never been a true #1 that led a team without any other real stars to the playoffs.
    I would agree with you except it's 2009 and Ray Allen/KG are s s of what they used to be in their primes....

    at this point KG/Ray equivalent to Manu/TP. Spurs are stronger in the bench.
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  20. 12-31-2009 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by in2deep
    I would agree with you except it's 2009 and Ray Allen/KG are s s of what they used to be in their primes....

    at this point KG/Ray equivalent to Manu/TP. Spurs are stronger in the bench.
    KG/Ray >>> Manu/TP

    GTFO homer
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  21. 12-31-2009 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch
    um, no.

    im taking the celtics, because all three of them have been #1 players that lead a team to the playoffs. so at least you have one of them.

    parker and ginobili have never been a true #1 that led a team without any other real stars to the playoffs.
    That's only 'cause they never had to. I've no doubt they could have done it if given the chance.
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  22. 12-31-2009 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by in2deep
    I would agree with you except it's 2009 and Ray Allen/KG are s s of what they used to be in their primes....

    at this point KG/Ray equivalent to Manu/TP. Spurs are stronger in the bench.
    KG/Ray > Manu/TP

    ...However...

    Manu/TP = or > Ray/Pierce
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  23. 12-31-2009 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAF86
    That's only 'cause they never had to. I've no doubt they could have done it if given the chance.
    i have no doubt that lebron could win 10 les in a row if he had a team of:

    C - Duncan
    PF - Dirk
    SF - Lebron
    SG - Allen
    PG - Kidd

    Bench - Garnett, Bowen, Nash

    all in their primes

    coulda woulda shoulda

    TP and Manu havent proven other than they can win les as second/third fiddle to Timmy who is one of the 5 greatest players of all time
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  24. 12-31-2009 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAF86
    KG/Ray > Manu/TP

    ...However...

    Manu/TP = or > Ray/Pierce
    Ray/Pierce >> Manu/TP
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  25. 12-31-2009 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by in2deep
    at this point KG/Ray equivalent to Manu/TP.

    Manu and TP have been about as useless as an asshole on your elbow this year.
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