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    wtf pop has not played ratliff or mahinmi in ages, tim and mcdyess sit the whole second half as the bobcats pound the glass and dominate inside. its like hes trying to lose.

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    and he did lost

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    What player on the bobcats can Ratliff stay with on defense?

    Genius.

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    What player on the bobcats can Ratliff stay with on defense?

    Genius.
    he can do what centers do and defend the paint, challenge their easy penetration and get some rebounds.
    much more effectively than a lineup of sub-6-7 guys getting their shots swatted and getting killed on the glass.
    genius.

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    No effort = loss

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    -Horrible effort..
    -Shots not going down..
    -No energy players to come in when the team was clearly sleepwalking..

    I've never even asked for Haislip to play once this year, just before anybody says that..I've been saying he's horrible since preseason..

    he clearly should play Ian or Ratliff more though, they're both high-energy guys that spark the team..as for who they were going to guard, did it matter in the end?..Diaw was torching everybody, small and big..

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    Pop will conclude that we lost with 4 of our biggest guys on the floor; therefore, we need more small ball.

    And please give Ian more time, for the love of Pete. He not only had good stats when he was playing vs. New Jersey, he made good rotations (as far as I could tell). Just try a stretch with Duncan and Ian. I want to see the twin towers 2.0.

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    No effort = loss
    +1

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    -Horrible effort..
    -Shots not going down..
    -No energy players to come in when the team was clearly sleepwalking..

    I've never even asked for Haislip to play once this year, just before anybody says that..I've been saying he's horrible since preseason..

    he clearly should play Ian or Ratliff more though, they're both high-energy guys that spark the team..as for who they were going to guard, did it matter in the end?..Diaw was torching everybody, small and big..

    Yeah

    5/25 from 3 doesn't help either.

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    Pop will conclude that we lost with 4 of our biggest guys on the floor; therefore, we need more small ball.

    And please give Ian more time, for the love of Pete. He not only had good stats when he was playing vs. New Jersey, he made good rotations (as far as I could tell). Just try a stretch with Duncan and Ian. I want to see the twin towers 2.0.
    Good lord....

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    You guys wanna judge Haislip when the guy has barely seen but a handful of minutes this year .. of course he's gonna be out of sync.

    I agree however Mahinmi has some defenite potential here.. Again he shows his ability to utilize his sizne and length to score around the rim (something Blair is too short to do) and ability to intimidate people on the other end.

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    You guys wanna judge Haislip when the guy has barely seen but a handful of minutes this year .. of course he's gonna be out of sync.

    I agree however Mahinmi has some defenite potential here.. Again he shows his ability to utilize his sizne and length to score around the rim (something Blair is too short to do) and ability to intimidate people on the other end.

    Oh please, Haislip stinks.

    He looked the same now as he did in the preseason.


    The only times he looks good are in garbage time against bad teams.

    That means BAD PLAYER.


    Good grief.

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    tall ball = wide open 3's (blow out)



    a mix of both probably wouldn't hurt

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    We're getting killed in the paint, this team needs more Ratliff & Mahinmi. At who's expense I'm not sure but something has to give.

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    actually i think pop has realized that and started playing big ball towards the end of the game

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    Oh please, Haislip stinks.

    He looked the same now as he did in the preseason.


    The only times he looks good are in garbage time against bad teams.

    That means BAD PLAYER.


    Good grief.
    Bogans couldn't shoot in the preseason and can't shoot now.. shall we conclude the same about him?

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    Wow, what a way to kill the momentum by beating the Lakers and OKC. These guys need to show up against Memphis though

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    Bogans couldn't shoot in the preseason and can't shoot now.. shall we conclude the same about him?

    He's not a great shooter no.

    But he plays good defense rebounds and drives the ball to the basket, rotates well and isn't in the way on offense.

    All things Haislip can't due.

    Trust me, coming from someone who defended mediocre to bad players for years. Rasho, Elson, Cherokee Parks.

    Don't defend Haislip, its a losing cause.

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    Kind of sux, but yeah no surprise here. Spurs love playing to the level of their opponent. Bad shooting night, lack of interest; they lulled themselves to sleep tonight. Atleast Mahinmi and Haslip got some burn tonight. Mahinmi seems like he still has a chance to stick around in the NBA. Blair must be rubbing off on him. I wonder if we will see Duncan on the court tomorrow or not.

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    Wow, what a way to kill the momentum by beating the Lakers and OKC. These guys need to show up against Memphis though

    I think thats overstating it a bit.

    Games like this happen where you just come in with a at ude and get outhustled.

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    The Spurs have been playing a lot of small ball since Bonner's injury.

    Fail thread.

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    He's not a great shooter no.

    But he plays good defense rebounds and drives the ball to the basket, rotates well and isn't in the way on offense.

    All things Haislip can't due.

    Trust me, coming from someone who defended mediocre to bad players for years. Rasho, Elson, Cherokee Parks.

    Don't defend Haislip, its a losing cause.
    It's not really defending him, just saying he's hardly seen enough time to make a good judgement.

    And in today's NBA game where offense is king, what you described as Bogans' attributes doesn't cut it nowadays. This 1-7 is becoming all too common for him.

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    Haislip goes in the deep freeze until he's traded or maybe "gets it" next season.

    Ian is doing ok, but he's not going to make his teammates hit open shots tonight.

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    Oh please, Haislip stinks.

    He looked the same now as he did in the preseason.


    The only times he looks good are in garbage time against bad teams.

    That means BAD PLAYER.


    Good grief.
    Yeah, even the way Haslip moves on the court-- he doesn't look like a basketball player or even an athlete. The way he moves makes Bonner look like an athlete. Are we sure that guy is athletic?

    Scrounge me up some Bonner... Play Ian or Ratliff. Even in the very short minutes, Ian looks a lot better than Haslip.

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    I didn't base my judgment of Haislip on how he looked tonight..I didn't judge him in preseason based on his shooting or how he looked within the team..

    I didn't really care that he was missing, that happens, guys go through slumps..my problem with him in preseason was that he was physically overmatched by all of the post players that he was guarding, they were pushing him around with ease..when he was guarding on the perimeter he was getting torched as well..he blocks some shots once in a while, I'll give him credit there..

    His problem offensively is that he doesn't shoot well enough to make him a legit 3-point shooting big man and he was also having trouble dribbling past his opponent every time and he has no post up game at all..if you have those types of problems, you better be around the mid 40s in 3PT% to have an impact in this league, which is why Bonner gets PT..so his only hope of playing on this team would be to play ahead of Bonner, and he doesn't do anything better than Bonner other than dunk..

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