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    OK, maybe this should be in the college section, but who's reading that right now and this factors into the Golden Boy's suitability for the NFL ...

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,215726

    On top of the technical issues NFL scouts have with Tim Tebow as a prospective pro quarterback, there's also the standard next-level complaint about "the system" -- specifically, among other things, that Tebow spent the entirety of his college career at Florida taking snaps from the shotgun, never from under center, even in short-yardage situations. That seemingly minor qualm opens up an entirely new avenue of doubts about his ability to adjust to basic mechanics like footwork and turning his back to the defense, fundamentals most quarterbacks have converted to second nature long before they show up for NFL auditions (or, in most cases, before they ever set foot in an actual college game).

    Florida tried to address that last year by hiring respected quarterbacks coach Scott Loeffler from the pro ranks, practicing with Tebow under center and having him take a handful of "conventional" snaps in a few games, all with an eye to making the most celebrated college player in modern history a more viable prospect to the skeptics. But when he showed up Monday for the first day of heavy scrutiny at the Senior Bowl, all the old alarm bells started ringing at maximum volume -- Tebow reportedly flubbed his first snap from center, and it only got uglier from there:

    Performing drills with fellow South team quarterbacks Zac Robinson of Oklahoma State and Jarrett Brown of West Virginia, Tebow fumbled the ball at least twice while taking snaps under center.

    Later in team drills, Tebow fell into his same old habits — holding onto the ball too long, locking onto receivers and throwing wobbly passes.

    The scouts noticed.

    "He looks like the third QB out there," one NFC South talent evaluator said.
    .Of course, the two QBs in front of him, Robinson and Brown, also come from shotgun-based spread schemes that featured a steady dose of quarterback-as-runner, and former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach -- as prominent an acolyte of the "college spread" as you can find -- hilariously mocked the NFL mantra when his prolific protegé, Graham Harrell, met with failing grades from the scouts last spring. ("How could you possibly look yourself in the mirror and consider yourself an NFL coach and not be able to teach a guy to run back three steps, five steps and seven steps? I can teach a child that!") Longtime coach and quarterback guru Marc Trestman, who worked with Tebow to prepare for this week, said he didn't think Tebow looked bad enough to hurt himself; Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, overseeing the South roster, said Tebow improved over the course of the practice. If nothing else, he's already well on his way to replacing Brett Favre's spot in Peter King's heart in the league's most influential weekly column.

    But for a guy who needed a knockout week, the initial reviews are unadulterated fuel for the haters. Handling the snap is supposed to be the easy part of the transition; if he's still struggling with the basic exchange on national television this Saturday, we won't be hearing the end of it anytime soon.

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    I hope Tim Tebow does well in the nfl. Such a good guy.

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    people who hate on Tebow have some serious psychological problems.

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    people who hate on Tebow have some serious psychological problems.
    Hey...I saw a funny pic on the interwebs and I posted it. That is not a psychological problem, that is wasting time at work.

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    Hey...I saw a funny pic on the interwebs and I posted it. That is not a psychological problem, that is wasting time at work.
    people in general, wasn't responding to your post.

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    people in general, wasn't responding to your post.
    I figured..its all good.

    I will say this for me personally though...I don't hate the kid but he has done some things that I don't care for.

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    i think ppl hype this thing up too much..

    some ppl act as if tebow can never play as a qb..

    yes the system voided him of some skillsets a "typical" qb would have.. but tebow's got an arm.. he may not be as accurate as one would like.. he's a big qb and yes he can study defenses... he's not a bust by any means..

    we're not talking about jamarcus russel here.. now that is overhyped

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    i think ppl hype this thing up too much..

    some ppl act as if tebow can never play as a qb..

    yes the system voided him of some skillsets a "typical" qb would have.. but tebow's got an arm.. he may not be as accurate as one would like.. he's a big qb and yes he can study defenses... he's not a bust by any means..

    we're not talking about jamarcus russel here.. now that is overhyped
    He's not a bust yet because he hasn't stepped on the field in a real game. He will be given that chance, if he makes it...I will be one of the first to say so...personally though I don't think he will be a successful starting QB at the next level.

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    people who hate on Tebow have some serious psychological problems.
    The media sucking Tebow's 24/7 is mostly to blame, but it's not like Tebow doesn't enjoy and soak in every moment off that media suckfest.

    Plus the way he overcelebrates and convulses while trying to rally the teammates is annoying as .

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    The media sucking Tebow's 24/7 is mostly to blame, but it's not like Tebow doesn't enjoy and soak in every moment off that media suckfest.

    Plus the way he overcelebrates and convulses while trying to rally the teammates is annoying as .
    Amen, Senator. I'm still pissed about his excessive gator chomp right in the face of Nic Harris on the last drive during the championship a couple years ago. It's NO different than that of kevin garnett screaming at people after dunking the damn ball. Same damn type of thing

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    There are worthless Niner fans out there right now trying to say SF should take him with their first pick. FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    The ing Niners are still dealing with an Urban disciple who was never under center and still can't figure out how NOT to stare down a receiver!!!

    Tebow should play fullback or tight end so he can hit people, because that's all the guy is good for... Tantrums and head-down determination.

    Now, name me a QB in the last 10+ years with a pedigree (spread offense) who has become successful (consistently) in the NFL... Anybody?

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    people who hate on Tebow have some serious psychological problems.
    Maybe people wouldn't hate if he wasn't trying to shove his religious views down people's throats.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2010012604306

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    Real football fans don't give a about his religious beliefs. Take that irrelevant to the club namlook.

    The dude is simply not an NFL QB talent. I'm not saying he can't make it in the NFL, just that he can't make it as a QB.


    Stop fellating Tebow!

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    Real football fans don't give a about his religious beliefs. Take that irrelevant to the club namlook.

    The dude is simply not an NFL QB talent. I'm not saying he can't make it in the NFL, just that he can't make it as a QB.


    Stop fellating Tebow!
    i agree w/ sypmle an the fact that he is not an NFL QB But unfortunatley sombody like al davis will pick him because of his athleticism

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    i think ppl hype this thing up too much..

    some ppl act as if tebow can never play as a qb..

    yes the system voided him of some skillsets a "typical" qb would have.. but tebow's got an arm.. he may not be as accurate as one would like.. he's a big qb and yes he can study defenses... he's not a bust by any means..

    we're not talking about jamarcus russel here.. now that is overhyped
    if tebow throws as many TDs as Jamarcus Russell does, I'll be shocked.

    Russell showed a lot more at the college level as a passer than Tebow, and he still couldn't cut it.

    I'm not rooting against TT, but I don't see the point in building him up as a pro-prospect when he's not just because somebody agrees with his religious values.

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    Plus the way he overcelebrates and convulses while trying to rally the teammates is annoying as .
    Sooo....let's bash on Tebow because he's a leader and tries to rally his team? I know a couple of successful NFL players who do the same thing...


    Keith Brooking is a huge part of the Cowboys partially because he does the same thing. One thing Tebow is is a leader. Not a Tebow fan or anything, but to wish a guy to fail is just envious and sad.

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    people who hate on Tebow have some serious psychological problems.
    This^^^^^ They got sick of him in college from the media and the fact he won.

    FLA fan here, fukk the hate.

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    This^^^^^ They got sick of him in college from the media and the fact he won.

    FLA fan here, fukk the hate.
    I hate him because he's the epitome of a . And golden boys like Tebow have no business talking about how great Jesus is. Jesus comes easy when you're as blessed as Tebow. He smacks more of self righteousness, than just plain righteousness.

    And I like Florida.

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    I don't care one way or another if Tebow succeeds as a QB or not, but I just can't see how much success he can have with that arm. He has a weaker arm fir down field throws than Colt, and Colt is weaker than guys like Bradford and the kid from Stanford. Tebow just doesn't have the arm to throw the 15 yd outs.

    The only thing I don't like about Tebow outside of football is he is allowed to push his religious stuff on everyone when a player who is an atheist or Satan worshipper would be crucified for doing the same. That's not right.

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    This^^^^^ They got sick of him in college from the media and the fact he won.

    FLA fan here, fukk the hate.
    Actually, I think that was part of the backlash. His team won. He was a very good player on that team, but he wasn't winning games single handedly.

    Kansas State had an extremely mediocre record with Josh Freeman as our QB. Replace him with Tebow...we would have had an extremely mediocre record.

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