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Tell me this Laker Fans, why does KOME shoot 30 shots a game when he has two 7 footers capable of scoring 20 points in 50% shooting?
How long will you guys defend this chucker???
Gasol had just 10 points on 4-of-7 shooting Monday and surely hoped to shine brighter in the city where he not only is already a franchise all-time scoring leader but holds 11 other all-time Grizzlies records.
“Obviously we’re not making a concerted effort at pounding the ball inside,” Gasol said after the loss.
He said he’s not sure why this plagues the Lakers despite their consistent size advantage, but added pointedly: “It happens often
lolPhil... "At halftime, I told everybody he's forcing the action, so let's get him over the hump so we can play some team ball.... but it looks like we never did"
So it begins....
Tell me this Laker Fans, why does KOME shoot 30 shots a game when he has two 7 footers capable of scoring 20 points in 50% shooting?
How long will you guys defend this chucker???
lol the Hornets beat the Grizzlies in Memphis without Chris Paul. This should have been a blow out, but Kobe was more worried about padding his stats than winning the ball game.
I told you all Kome was padding his stats since very early in the season. 21_cuckolds and company kept denying it, but the proof is right here. He's in a hurry to try to catch up to the GOAT because he knows his window is closing...
<crickets chirping>
Amazing stuff. Any other all time great would probably use Gasol and Bynum.
Kobe wants to play this way. Kobe is an all time great, but I don't think I like him anymore or his contrived team game. He just don't want to play a team game.
I think Laker fans should be concerned this season and the state of the team.
Kobe is shooting horrible yet he continues to shoot despite averaging 30% for the m,onth of January
Gasol seems to be unhappy. This is the second time Gasol had been public of his role in that team.
If the Lakers dont win it all, expect Kobe and Gasol war just like Shaq and Kome.
ouch
no, I don't see Gasol fighting w/Kobe a la Shaq. gasol is one of the smartest NBA players, he will use his intelligence to get what he wants from Kobe
The window is wider than just this year. Pau and Kobe will be fine. It was established long ago, and I am sure Pau was briefed, that this is still Kobe's team. Not defending Kobe. I am just saying that a fued between these 2 is highly unlikely. If it does come to it, I am confident Pau is more approachable than Shaq ever was. In other words, Pau will learn, however hard it may come to him, to take the back seat. He's no dummy. the Lakers are going to be contenders of 3-4 years or maybe longer.
In Kobe's illustrious career: 36,423 minutes and 19,271 field goal attempts, Kobe's per minutes shot attempt is appoximately 0.529.
Let us take a look at the the top 12 in total field goal attempts. Shocking numbers, I tell you. I will give you the shot attempts per minute rounded up to 3 sig fig. Most of them are bunch of chuckers, I tell you. In their career, most of them are only known for scoring and some of these guys here don't have a ring to prove that chucking wins championships. Kobe is one lucky player to win a ring. I will asterisk the players who did not win a ring, keyword being win, not gifted, like Baylor. Michael Jordan was of a chucker too, being the only exception to the rule. Only exeption to below the 0.53 shot mark to never win a ring was Karl Malone and above the 0.53 mark was Michael Jordan, not suprisingly, they met in the finals for 2 straight years.
12. Oscar Robertson: 0.447 (Played 43,886 minutes and took 19,620 shots)
11. Allen Iverson*: 0.53 (Played 37,505 minutes and took 19,878 shots.)
10. Elgin Baylor*: 0.596 (Played 33,863 minutes and took 20,171 shots.)
9. Hakeem Olajuwon: 0.475 (Played 44,222 minutes and took 20,991 shots.)
8. Alex English*: 0.553 (Played 38,063 minutes and took 21,036 shots.)
7. Dominique Wilkins*: 0.566 (Played 38,113 minutes and took 21,589 shots.)
6. Wilt Chamberlain: 0.491 (Played 47,859 minutes and took 23,497 shots.)
5. John Havlicek: 0.515 (Played 46,471 minutes and took 23,930 shots.)
4. Elvin Hayes: 0.485 (Played 50,000 minutes and took 24,272 shots.)
3. Michael Jordan: 0.598 (Played 41,010 minutes and took 24,573 shots.)
2. Karl Malone*: 0.478 (Played 54,852 minutes and took 26,210 shots.)
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 0.493 (Played 57,446 minutes and took 28,307 shots.)
So, Allen Iverson = chucker in most people's eyes, and he has been playing as the 1st option is almost his entire career, and he takes 0.53 shots per minute while Kobe, on the other hand, takes 0.529 shots for his entire career per minute, even though he was a bench player to start his career and no more than 2nd option until 2001-2002 (considered equals with Shaq to give Kobe even more of an edge) and chucks his way to Iverson-esque shot attempts per minute. Lucky to have a ring or not, you decide.
Sources: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...mp_career.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ga_career.html
Last edited by Chieflion; 02-02-2010 at 10:51 AM.
no, I don't see Gasol fighting w/Kobe a la Shaq. gasol is one of the smartest NBA players, he will use his intelligence to get what he wants from Kobe
You, obviously get it.....
I dont think a feud will happen too but I think it will come to a point where Pau Gasol will not play with passion (as he did last year) because of A. uncertainties and B. Chemistry.
NBA Players are normal people too. They hav ego's and emotions. once Kobe breaks this trust, he will regret it for the rest of his life.
Gasol has been very generous with his second banana role, but right now I think KOME is taking this too far ignoring Gasol's importance to the Lakers.
kinda curious as to where you found this stat
Damn it, the stat was actually Jordan without Pippen. Kinda late here. My thoughts are a little screwed up. Just read the calulations and you will be fine. Decide for yourselves whether Kobe is a chucker or not. I will go edit my post now. Jordan was actually the only exception to the 0.53 benchmark. To be fair, Kobe won the championship jacking up 0.578 shots per minute. So, he can be included in that exception too. This season, he is jacking up 0.586 shots per game.
Comparision of Kobe By=ryant and Jordan (damn, he shoots a lot too, if English chucked the most, I would use him as a comparsion.)
Kobe's chucking season of 2005-2006: 0.663 shots per minute
Jordan's chucking season of 1986-1987: 0.695 shots per minute
Jordan, biggest chucker of all-time, but at least when he shoots a lot, his team actually wins.
Last edited by Chieflion; 02-02-2010 at 11:22 AM.
Kobe riding another big man out of town would be priceless.
Kob meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeee
If this dynamic is at play than Kobe can only blame Kobe. Look, the loss aside, anyone with a decent b-ball brain knows this team is stacked. Stacked enough to beat even the highly touted Cavs. Kobe is just as hungry this year as last if not more. This isn't the 20-21 year old Kobe. I am somewhat confident he'll gather himself and take a good look at his weaknesess no matter how much people think he's in denial to bring this team back up to speed and win another one. He maybe selfish but he's not stupid either.
I don't think it can be overstated enough how stupid ChrisRichard aka MiamiHeat aka Stretch aka JT aka Mono is.
This idiot will suck Kobe's and will gladly pay Kome for this doing so.
You've put that too nicely for Kobe, but it is a pretty good statement. He will force himself to pass the ball as he usually does when he realizes he can't win by playing this way.
Thanks Ice. That's really all I was trying to say.
Thanks for the ups..
And how many times are you gonna start a thread saying the same thing, discussing the same thing?!
Troll recognize Troll.
Now bow down to The King, .
Kobe also leads the Lakers in assists…Does anyone here seriously believe that he would take more shots to pad his statistics….This thread is too darn funny…
It was a pretty good way to sum it up I thought. I mean Kobe is smart like you said. That is why he is not Ricky Davis or Stephon Marbury. Those guys had no clue what was going on.Thanks Ice. That's really all I was trying to say.
Thanks for the ups..
I don't know, but I really think this is the example why I don't like Kobe. Can you guys understand where some of the hate comes from now? I just don't like that sort of game and to me it looks contrived most of the time when Kobe passes the ball. Not like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan they play a team game where the only thing that counts is the win. Stats don't mean a thing.
last night Kobe was not shooting > 50 % ?
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