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I dunno if Butlers good enough to give up beaubois for.
Butler winding up somewhere in Texas is most likely, with Washington probably deciding between Dallas' and Houston's competing offers before next week's All-Star Game. The Wizards are determined to get a young player back, though, and the Mavericks' only non-geezer is rookie guard Rod Beaubois -- while Houston has a young guard like Kyle Lowry and an expiring big man contract in forward Luis Scola to pair with McGrady's $22 million expiring deal.
(Don't discount Portland, either. While much has been made of the Blazers' pursuit of Washington center Brendan Haywood, the Blazers have just as much, if not more, interest in Butler, and are willing to put $3 milliion in cash toward a deal -- which certainly interests the Wizards. But Portland's refusal to put any of its young players other than Martell Webster in any potential deal puts it on the outside looking in. As has been reported, the Wizards want either Nicholas Batum -- no chance -- or Rudy Fernandez -- not likely, as he is a favorite of many inside the Blazers' braintrust. The Lakers would also love to repatriate Butler with Kobe Bryant, who would love to have him. But L.A. doesn't have the expiring contract/young player assets necessary to get seriously involved.)
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1
Take it for what its worth, since it is David Aldrige
I dunno if Butlers good enough to give up beaubois for.
hopefully the crockets rather than the mavs. i dont see one way he makes us better. even the addition of iggy wouldn't ensure that we are going to suddenly become contenders. lateral move IMO
Butler/Haywood for Josh/Gooden. Toss in smurf if they want him (they don't)
How does that make us better? We already have a defensive minded center. Butler is a chucker and isn't much of an upgrade over Josh if at all. I'd rather have Gooden's scoring off the bench tbh
Butler>>Josh
Butler will be inspired if he actually comes to a contend, imo. Plus the Lakeshow is looking a little bit vunerable. Maybe we could get lucky. All I know is that this trade talk is affecting the team. Ever since the first rumor broke we are 1-5. Just make something happen. Addition by substaction (e ially since Josh is apparently a major chemisrty problem now).
Plus I am a complete non-beliver that Lebron or even Bosh would ever think of coming to Dallas
Josh wasn't a chemistry issue before, so addition by subraction at this point still doesn't make us any better than we were at the beginning of the season before the trade rumors. At which point we still needed a major upgrade to be able to contend. I see no point in making moves to continue our mediocrity for a while longer. There is NO REASON, absolutely NONE, that we can't bring in some serious talent with the amount of money we have in expiring contracts. We either need to go all out and make a push to win it all, or just go ahead and trade dirk along with everyone else before the deadline and just plan to rebuild. We don't need a 42% chucker on our team, and I highly doubt he'd all the sudden come alive and become lebron reincarnated after a trade to dallas, considering he's only a 44% chucker for his career. Not to mention a whopping 31% from three. No thanks.
Than what is the "serious talent" you think we should bring in. Iggy is my first choice but if that doesnt work out.......
and this "chucker" is a better player than Terry and smokey, so.....
BUTLER DO NOT WANT; ESPECIALLY NOT FOR LOWRY. IF LOWRY GETS TRADED; I BECOME BLAZERS FAN
Yao/Anderson
Landry/Hayes/Dorsey
Battier/Ariza
Butler/Ariza
Brooks/Lowry
Championship next year? no
Honestly I would have taken the proposed Jho for Ellis deal from GS and be working on a dampier/gooden/ package to Philly for Iggy. Anything else is kind of for nothing.
Josh Howard is no worse than Karen Butler.
So then our lineup would be
Kidd/Roddy
Ellis/Josh
Iggy/Marion
Dirk/Thomas(if he ever comes back..)
Najera?/Singleton?
You think that big man rotation competes with the Lakers lol. We dont have a center, unless your getting Dally back in th Iggy deal. Even then not enough big bodies. Thats why I like getting Haywood. Its another defensive center we can through at Bynum and Pau, who routinely own us.
I really like Roddy B, but if you had a deal of Josh/Roddy B/salary filler for Butler/Haywood, you do that in a heartbeat if you're Dallas.
And before anyone says it, yes I know that Philly will only want to give up Iggy if they can get rid of either Brand's or Dalembarts garbage contract along with it, and Damp/Gooden/JJB wouldnt make the numbers work. In that case, they'd just have to suck it up and take on either Najera or Carrol's contract. They'd still be saving over 20 mil in cap space. Beggars can't be choosers.
Someone please, please, please deal with Philly before Kerr/Sarver decide to.
Yes that's what I'd propose, we'd have to get Dalembart. And when these rumors first originally circulated, the rumor was that they'd release damp and he'd come back to us in 30 days. What use would they have for a mediocre 34(going on 35) year old center in their rebuilding plans?
It doesn't but you can have the , I'd rather get a lottery pick at this point.
If I were mavs gm, this would be our lineup
Kidd/jet/roddy
Ellis/jet
iggy/marion
Dirk/humphries/thomas
dampier/dalembart
there is absolutely NO REASON why this lineup would be unachievable for us.
Ellis? Don would never let that trade happen and you bas s know it.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, I just dont think Mavs would do it. Donnie loves draft steals, mostly because he never gets them. Look at how long it took them to finally be open for trading Josh. Donnie only throws in Roddy for a superstar. Plus donnie and cuban really like Roddy.
But I don't really want to see Roddy go either. His jumpshot is crazy good. I don't know how you guard him once he gets smarter and gets more experience.
Jho for Ellis was on the table not once but TWICE back when they were having at ude problems with Ellis. They offered it once, Cuban IMMEDIATELY declined, and then once Josh got injured later on, sometime in November I believe, and wasn't expected back at the time until after Christmas, they called and offered it AGAIN, which Cuban also declined.
Well he's a stupid or he's feeling the effects of the economy because that's a great deal for the Mavs.
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1974
Basically we could have had Ellis or Sjax at the very least. Cuban and Donnie might be the 2 dumbest people in any nba front office today.
Not getting Sjax pisses me off like nothing else. He would of been perfect here. The scorer, defender and leader we need.
Pisses me off too, but so have lot's of things this team has done over the years, I'm pretty much immune to it all by now.
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