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    Emperor Duncan>>>>>King James tim_duncan_fan's Avatar
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    I was just wondering what other fans think is going on in Pop's head given his erratic, miniscule lineups, terrible play calls and his aversion to playing the youth.

    Is he tanking? Or maybe he's crazy? Or does he truly believe he is doing the right things to have the team in position to win?


    What do yall think is going on?

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    I think he's trying to make the best of the playbook he curtailed in order to make it easier for the new guys to fit in. And even though I don't have any interest in a new coach, I believe it is killing the team.

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    POP IS DRUNK OR TRASH NOW, period........

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    i am baffled by pops behavior!! its just like anything else when they are doing good we praise them, when they are doing terrible we talk crap about it, people in here are trying to deny the stupidity pop is showing, because its so unlike the man it really is hard to believe.
    i am a huge fan of pop, i do not understand whats going on, but his personality is starting to piss people off because now hes the same asshole but who's losing. The man is just so stubborn and hardheaded, hes the type that will drive his team into the ground before changing the lineup. we need a new coach and its a really sad year for san antonio

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    Jesus H... who do people propose should take over for Pop? Carlesimo? AJ? These guys sound like a better option?

    ... let's get Hubie Brown. At least that bas racked up some winning seasons before he turned into a mummy.

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    I think POP is bitter.

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    I was just wondering what other fans think is going on in Pop's head given his erratic, miniscule lineups, terrible play calls and his aversion to playing the youth.

    Is he tanking? Or maybe he's crazy? Or does he truly believe he is doing the right things to have the team in position to win?


    What do yall think is going on?
    NOTHING, Pop is just finished...he needs to go! He cannot even call one rotation right any more...

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    i am baffled by pops behavior!! its just like anything else when they are doing good we praise them, when they are doing terrible we talk crap about it, people in here are trying to deny the stupidity pop is showing, because its so unlike the man it really is hard to believe.
    i am a huge fan of pop, i do not understand whats going on, but his personality is starting to piss people off because now hes the same asshole but who's losing. The man is just so stubborn and hardheaded, hes the type that will drive his team into the ground before changing the lineup. we need a new coach and its a really sad year for san antonio
    I don't think we need to replace Pop AS COACH. In fact, I think Pop and RC in the front office have failed Pop the coach. By that I mean, I think Pop, like us, sees that the group is not really a champion contender and he's trying every combination possible to find something that works. He'd rather sacrifice a few wins and have a good team at a lower seed than a few more wins without finding the 'key' lineup to compete come playoff time.

    The problem is that theory was good earlier in the season when we thought we'd be good. Now we need every win just to make the playoffs.

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    I don't think we need to replace Pop AS COACH. In fact, I think Pop and RC in the front office have failed Pop the coach. By that I mean, I think Pop, like us, sees that the group is not really a champion contender and he's trying every combination possible to find something that works.
    This.

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    "The ball don't lie." dbestpro's Avatar
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    he's trying every combination possible to find something that works.
    Mahnimi? Hairston? Ratliff? Haislip? Trading for a big?

    I would say, "he has tried every small ball combination possible to find something that works."

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    Like I've said, CIA pop trying to stay under the radar and get the 8th seed so we face the lakers first round while everyone is still fresh. No worries fellas

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    He's just trying to win his way... it's just not working...

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    When its all said and done, I am just glad that KB got 40 minutes of playing time. I think the Spurs are at their best when he is on the floor.

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    Like I've said, CIA pop trying to stay under the radar and get the 8th seed so we face the lakers first round while everyone is still fresh. No worries fellas
    I wiish I could smoke what your smoking right about now...

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    What I think is wrong with us is that teams around us have been blessed with gift trades, rent a players, and spending.

    Spend another 6-10 mill be up there with Dallas $ wise and getting good players with cheap contracts. Look at Marion, Haywood and even Kidd! Salaries are very low for the talent they have...

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    So far my biggest problem with Pop has been his ability to be consistently inconsistent. He wants the team to jell, but uses different lineups all the time. It seems counter-intuitive if you ask me.

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    I was just wondering what other fans think is going on in Pop's head given his erratic, miniscule lineups, terrible play calls and his aversion to playing the youth.

    Is he tanking? Or maybe he's crazy? Or does he truly believe he is doing the right things to have the team in position to win?


    What do yall think is going on?
    He's crazy

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    I am holding out hope that he does have a plan and that things will improve. Watching him over the years there have been many times that I did not understand certain things only to watch it all come together into a championship team. This team is not a championship team but I hope they can improve and build the confidence of those who will be playing next year. I have scratched my head more times this year than ever before. I am still watching but time is moving.

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    I think the lockeroom just sucks right now, although that probably has to do with losing more so than the personality of the players

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    i think:

    -he knows more about basketball than we do
    -he knows his own players more than we do
    -he knows more about strategy than we do (even though it appears ridiculous)
    -he knows more about spurs' opponents than we do
    -he knows why he's not using ian mahinmi
    -he doesn't know what is wrong with rj

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    I think the lockeroom just sucks right now, although that probably has to do with losing more so than the personality of the players

    It must suck to be in that locker room. No chemistry. Expectations just blown. Almost out of the play-offs. No true bigman to help Timmy. RJ sucking ass. Manu worrying about his new contract and where he's going to end up. Timmy recognizing there may not be another LOB before he retires given the players he has. TP hurt. Pop's crazy line-ups.

    Goddamn...

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    Even when they play you can see they want to really get into others faces but hold back. They are more vocal towards each other then I can remember, I'm guessing some would really like to unload on a few......

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    we are losing too many games.....

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    OK, I'll bite. Here's my theory (watch out, it's a long post).

    Pop had a patented system, built on an efficient superstar who commanded a double team in TD, great #2 options (DRob/Sean in 99, Jax/TP in 03, Manu/TP in 05 & 07) and a bunch of veteran role-players who knew how to defend. As the Spurs put up a solid decade of le contention and 4 championships, Pop began thinking that his system was infallible. That no matter who the personnel, his system would deliver the goods.

    Which is why from 99 to 07, you can see the evolution in the way Spurs teams were structured. 99 was built on an impenetrable twin tower defense. As DRob got injured and old, Pop slowly began trying out big men who weren't shot-blockers but who knew how to rebound, defend and score a bit. Thus Malik Rose got a lot of playing time in 03, Horry/Nazr did it in 05, and Horry/Oberto were enough in 07.

    Pop could afford to do that and still win because Tim Duncan on his own was mostly good enough to keep the paint closed down. Also because our main rival in the latter part of that era (Phoenix) didn't have any big men worthy of matching up against.

    In 2006, the first sign of trouble appeared as the Mavs went toe-to-toe with us. Pop didn't know how to react to the Mavs' isolation offense, and he went small for a large part of the series. We lost, but only on a boneheaded foul by Manu - perhaps in Pop's mind he thought we'd done enough to win. Sure enough, the Mavs the bed against the Warriors in 07 and we won another le. By now Pop was convinced that the system was unbeatable.

    But things were changing. Duncan was getting older and less able to hold down the fort all by himself. Simultaneously, the NBA was making life easier for perimeter players to penetrate the lane. However, Pop wasn't worried. He still had Horry to pair with TD, and a potential Horry replacement in Bonner to continue the strategy.

    This tactic bombed in 2008 when the Lakers got Gasol and trotted out skilled big men at both PF and C. An older Duncan couldn't stop them, and Horry and Bonner were just plain outmatched. The failure was complete in 2009 when the Mavs schooled the Spurs, while Pop blissfully continued playing his "system" guys and keeping Hill off the floor till it was too late.

    Now, Pop did realize what was going on, resulting in the acquisition of Dice for the 2010 campaign. He also got swingman firepower in RJ. With Hill and Blair both developing, he thought we were on good shape. But the core of his system (dominant big man + 2 great second options aka the big 3) were old/injured. Also, some of the veterans were replaced by youth. Naturally his "system" didn't work.

    At that point, I wouldn't have faulted Pop. Instead of his patented "big 3 + veterans" squad, he had a different set of tools to work with - more balance across the lineup, and a bit more youth. After the first 3rd of the season, the onus was on Pop to ins ute a variant of his system (or a different strategy altogether) to get the most out of this group. It would mean play young 'uns like Blair/Hairston more and let them develop, much in the way that Phil Jackson let Ariza / Shannon Brown / Farmar / Vujacic / Josh Powell contribute. But Pop hasn't been able to figure it out yet.

    And that has been his single biggest failure. He's been exposed as a one-trick pony who needs the right squad to make it work. Give him a different talent distribution and he fails badly. Even though this Spurs team is deep, we are trailing teams like the Thunder and Jazz. OKC and Utah's coaches are able to get the most out of their teams with all their respective flaws. But our coach continues to bang his head against a brick wall, trying to make his new square pegs fit his round holes.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    i think:

    -he knows more about basketball than we do
    -he knows his own players more than we do
    -he knows more about strategy than we do (even though it appears ridiculous)
    -he knows more about spurs' opponents than we do
    -he knows why he's not using ian mahinmi
    -he doesn't know what is wrong with rj
    So according to Pop, Keith Bogans is better than Manu Ginobili. By your logic, if Manu were better he'd be starting right?

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