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everytime we started to struggle tonight it was with blair as our only big... i just dont understand... dyess or duncan need to be out there at all times.... should have traded bonner and mason for someone.... those guys are useless here
Did we really trot out a severely hobbled Parker, Bogans, Finley, Jefferson and Blair with 6 mins to go in the 4th?
I'm still enjoying this win and all the heroics. But I just can't get that out of my head. Really Pop?
Thoughts?
everytime we started to struggle tonight it was with blair as our only big... i just dont understand... dyess or duncan need to be out there at all times.... should have traded bonner and mason for someone.... those guys are useless here
Yeah, that had me scratching my head...
I NEVER wanna see Bogans and Fin on the court together again. , I don't even want them on the same TEAM together.
Btw, when did Fin start sucking THIS badly? I expected him to hit at least ONE of those 3-balls. For 's sake...
Also pop was flirting with disaster waiting untill 5 minutes left in the 4th to put Duncan back in the game... another head scratcher
Finley and Bogans shouldn't be on the floor at any time, let alone together..
I'm happy with the W, but this isn't going to be good for the future rotations IMO..it will only encourage Pop..
Apparently Blair is a big....
bogans played decent game tonight. i think the starting 5 used today should finish out the year... cut mason and bonner out of the rotation completely unless emergency.... and roll with that....
pop has gone mad
does he seriously think RJ at the 4 will bode well in the playoffs? (if we make it there hehe)
Yep, right now he's rationalizing a way to give Finley and Bogans and his lineups credit for a win.
If Pop has been actually trying to win games over the last couple months then this season has displayed one of the worst coaching jobs in NBA history.
I agree, but let's not forget that his players made an effort to make him look even worse.
I'm tired of guys complaining about small ball. Lets try to explain.
Duncan averages 32 mins a game. McDyess averages about 21.
32 mins + 21 mins = 53 minutes of total time these guys can play.
There are 48 minutes in game. Duncan and McDyess play together most of these minutes together. So there can be anywhere from 16 to zero minutes that are accounted for. We have no other bigs besides Blair. So Spurs have to play 'small ball' due to lack of bigs. Unless you want Bonner or Mahinmi in the game. If Bonner plays then you guys start threads in "Why the heck is Bonner in game?" or "Why is Bonner starting?
im saying it again replace pop before we lose manu!!!
I agree with you longtime...he has to manage the minutes...53 minutes of play. He has no choice but to go small sometimes. Give IAN a chance, bla bla blah..dude is butter fingers..they have no other centers.
Please, Dice averaged 30 minutes per game last season and giving him more P.T. would really help the team with rebounding (something we again lacked tonight). Both of them are capable of playing more minutes here and there, but Pop feels the need to freeze Dice out after the first 4 or 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. Pop's line-ups sucked badly at times tonight, especially when he puts old-ass Finley on Durant (), he's just lucky that Manu and Timmy bailed him out.
Pop is starting to lose it I think. That or he is just flirting with any and every lineup he can think off. I dont understand it.
There's no excuse for the radical lineup rotations over the course of the season. There's no excuse for not getting Mahinmi acclimated to NBA ball in November. There's no excuse for Finley to get any burn outside of pure garbage time. I think this season many of the chemistry issues start with Pop. Players can't be happy getting jerked around in the rotations and never getting a groove. That's got to piss them off.
Remember, we were only in November and needed to acclimate all of the new faces. The team was a " le contender" and didn't have time to develop Mahinmi nor Hairston. Now, we see the dividends with the veteran center traded away for nothing and the athletic, raw and young player wasting away on the bench. Oh, and it doesn't matter if they see actual upside in Mahinmi, since they thought to not exercise his option, and he'll probably sign-on with another team or go back to Europe. What a win-win situation the F.O. has placed themselves in..
On a team with long, athletic players, particularly the forwards (though Green is more versatile than athletic), Finley was the Spurs counter. Against a team like this is where Thomas would have come in real handy.
This is yet another reason why trading Ratliff was stupid. Since Pop won't play Mahinmi and with Bonner clearly in the doghouse, the lack of size is more glaring than ever. We all like Blair, but he's 6-6, undersized for a PF as is and has no business not only playing C, but playing C with an SF (Jefferson) or a SG/SF (Finley) as the PF. This is just asking for a layup drill.
I knew it all along, shooting be damned, Blair-Ratliff should have been the backup big combo. Realistically, they wouldn't play a ton together and in second halves, Pop could have got McDyess out early, put Blair in, then have McDyess re-enter when Ratliff is in, or something like that if it was so important to have a big capable of making jump shots on the court at all times. More importantly, from a defensive standpoint this would have made the Spurs far more formidable at the rim.
Pop is a hypocrite in that he preaches defense, but he doesn't play lineups that are conducive to being successful defensively. Maybe it's from being burned too often in the past for not having enough offense, that he's so cognizant of that now that offense takes precedence over defense. If he's going to do that, then he shouldn't act like defense is vital and then not treat it as such with foolish lineups.
Blair as the center with four wings.
Seriously, you Popsuckers can kiss my ass. He's a ing re .
Old-ass Finley. And McDyess is young? Pop manages McDyess's minutes, so McDyess doesn't wear out. Look I hate small ball too, but Pop probably doesn't give a what we think of his rotations. Besides, the Spurs did win tonight, so I personally am not going to nit pik a win.Please, Dice averaged 30 minutes per game last season and giving him more P.T. would really help the team with rebounding (something we again lacked tonight). Both of them are capable of playing more minutes here and there, but Pop feels the need to freeze Dice out after the first 4 or 5 minutes of the 3rd quarter. Pop's line-ups sucked badly at times tonight, especially when he puts old-ass Finley on Durant (
I agree with you on Finley, but apparently there is a reason for not getting Mahimni acclimated to the NBA. Mahimni has all the physical tools, but what about the mental tools? Why won't Pop play a 6'10", athletic guy like Mahimni when the Spurs so desperately need more size, rebounding, shotblocking, etc...? BTW, I highly doubt Pop loses any sleep worrying about pissing players off.
In 17 minutes, Dice was 0 for 6 and 2 rebounds.
Small ball is our only option.
Yeah I know, Pop acts like McDyess has to be kept to 20 mpg, but Finley's old ass averaged what, 28 mpg last season? You can say "out of necessity", but he'd have played over 20 anyway and he has a lot more mileage on his legs than McDyess does. Pop just has this idea with veteran big men, particularly ones with injury histories, that they have to be kept to a ridiculously low amount of minutes. He did it with Thomas too, even though it was obvious from day one that Thomas was the second best big man on the team.
With the composition of this roster, the urgency for wins and the stage they're at in the season, it's time to start playing McDyess 25-30 mpg. He can handle it because he handled 30-35 mpg around this time last season with the Pistons and carried a bigger burden for that team than he has to on this one.
Come playoff time (roughly): Duncan 40 mpg, McDyess 32 mpg, Blair 24 mpg, is how the big man rotation should be.
About a bunch of f in idiots at times developing players, I swear Ian and Malik would be big now if they were on a team like LA! maybe even Denver or Dallas! I swear as great as our coach has been and our FO, they fukked over a le or two from decisions! FOUR LES YES! But it could have been 5 or 6 already! I swear I will always think that there. Talent carried them so far and great moves, but they could have had more IMO.Remember, we were only in November and needed to acclimate all of the new faces. The team was a " le contender" and didn't have time to develop Mahinmi nor Hairston. Now, we see the dividends with the veteran center traded away for nothing and the athletic, raw and young player wasting away on the bench. Oh, and it doesn't matter if they see actual upside in Mahinmi, since they thought to not exercise his option, and he'll probably sign-on with another team or go back to Europe. What a win-win situation the F.O. has placed themselves in..
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