Height: 6-10
Weight: 246 lbs
Birthday: 07/15/1991
College: Georgia Tech
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Only saw one game of him but was extremely impressed. Awesome combination of length+athleticism+quickness+defensive intensity+awareness. Should become a defensive force in the NBA as soon as he acquires a little experience and reputation. A guy to build a great defensive squad around.
Those qualities plus a reportedly good work ethic make this guy a top 5 pick. Unfortunately, the Spurs have no chance at him.
Favors in per NBAdraft.net
Georgia Tech's Favors: Spurs are trying to get me
By Jeff McDonald on May 21, 10 08:50 PM
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...techs-f-1.html
CIA or actual interest?(As in interest in moving up)
What's the CIA of talking to him I wonder...it can only further trade talk which they are supposedly denying.
...This is pretty funny cause you never hear of the spurs going through wasted motions during the draft process. This definatly will get TP's attention and the rest of the NBA for that matter.
I think that's what they're after - basically announcing that the Spurs are open to trades.
CIA Pop and CIA R.C won't ever admit their intentions through the media.
They have to be shopping Parker to see what's available, it's their job. Parker will be a free agent next year, and he is going to demand the max-level contract. If Spurs don't have the intentions on giving him such a deal (which I don't blame them), they are better off trading Parker but for the right deal. Due to the fact that Parker will more than likely get the max-level contract in free agency, leaving the Spurs empty handed.
You're right, Parker for sure will want a big contract and I'd trade him if it was certain he is leaving but I don't think the FO is sure either.
By no means am I advocating trading Parker just to trade him.
Only way I'd trade him is for the right deal.
A Parker, Blair or/and #20 and rights to Colo for Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft would be an example.
If the Spurs want to keep Tony for the long term, they have it completely in their power to assure that happens. The only reason that it hasn't happened already is because the Spurs haven't reached the point where they are ready to offer that much money to Tony. If they were to offer Tony the largest possible extension allowed by the CBA, as they did with Manu, Tony would sign that deal in a heartbeat.
I've been saying for a long time that there won't be an extension signed this year. The only way is happens is if Tony is willing to accept substantially less than the maximum possible deal. I don't see Tony doing that so I think Tony goes into free agency next summer if he isn't traded before then.
Trading Parker for a pick and a lesser vet player would be a rebuilding move. Given that Spurs have signed an aging Ginobili to a big extension, I don't think they are in rebuilding mode.
The reason why Spurs talked to Favors is because there is no drawback to do so. It's as simple as that. Now, you can always try to see some CIA behind that...
And Parker wanting a max contract or Spurs not ready to give him a big contract is a wild assumption.
I don't think it's as wild as you claim, he see's himself as a top 5 point guard in the league which is understandable. His agent and his group will use Chris Paul and Deron Williams' contract as leverage to get the max-level deal. At least that's my opinion.
At the same time, Spurs obviously aren't sold on the idea on giving him the max-level extension because they have been avoiding the situation all together. You can argue that Spurs avoided Ginobili this past season and ended up giving him the max-extension for 3 years. But with Parker the max-level deal is a bigger investment in terms of years. A much greater and complicated risk. IMO
I wouldn't say it would be solely a rebuilding move. IMO The move for the #3 pick and Harris would still be benefiting the current state of the Spurs and for the future as well.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 05-22-2010 at 01:38 PM.
That is true, but saying that Tony would sign a max extension is not a wild assumption nor is saying that the Spurs are not yet ready to offer a max extension. It is entirely reasonable and logical to assume that a max extension, if offered, would be signed. The absence of a signed max extension is clear proof that no such offer has been made.
There are CBA rules. If Parker signs an extension now, it can only be a 4 years one. He and Spurs must wait July to talk about a 5 years extension.
Parker said he will start talking about an extension with Spurs in October.
IMO, that's a bad trade for both sides.
Nets are a young team and a player with Favors upside is great.
Spurs are in win now, Parker is way better than Harris and Favors will be a 19 years old rookie.
harris & favors for parker would be a steal straight up for the spurs and also keep pick number 20 would be nice but i would give up splitter & parker
Understood. If my math is right, a 4yr max extension is around 69M and a 5yr extension would come in at around 90M. Clearly, Tony would sign a 90M deal. Facing the uncertainties of the 2011 CBA, I think it very likely that he would sign a 4yr/69M extension.
I'm convinced that the Spurs won't make any such offer. They will either trade him or wait until the parameters of the new CBA are known and take their chances in free agency.
Tony's situation is, in my view, so much more complicated than Manu's situation. It will be very interesting to see how things play out.
Couldn't have said it any better.
Agreed
I don't get the logic in what you say:
1) "I've been saying for a long time that there won't be an extension signed this year. The only way is happens is if Tony is willing to accept substantially less than the maximum possible deal. I don't see Tony doing that "
2) "Facing the uncertainties of the 2011 CBA, I think it very likely that he would sign a 4yr/69M extension."
So Parker will only sign a max extension but he would have accept this year an extension that was $21M less than the extension he could get next year.
I never said he would only sign a max extension. My point all along has been that the Spurs are not likely to offer anything approaching a 4yr or a 5yr max extension. For clarity, by substantially less than max I mean a deal that starts at less than the maximum possible starting salary and does not go the max possible years.I don't get the logic in what you say:
1) "I've been saying for a long time that there won't be an extension signed this year. The only way is happens is if Tony is willing to accept substantially less than the maximum possible deal. I don't see Tony doing that "
2) "Facing the uncertainties of the 2011 CBA, I think it very likely that he would sign a 4yr/69M extension."
So Parker will only sign a max extension but he would have accept this year an extension that was $21M less than the extension he could get next year.
Do you believe there is any chance that Spurs offer 4/69 or 5/90? I don't. I also don't think Tony will be interested in discussing deals that have a starting salary below a max raise over his 2010-11 salary. I think those are two very reasonable assumptions and that they combine to create a gulf that will be very difficult to bridge.
Do you disagree? If so, at what point in yrs/dollars do you think the two sides could agree.
Oh yes, I disagree.
You have a strange way to see things. Parker won't get what he wants, he will get his market value.
Now it's my turn to make two reasonable assumptions:
First, Spurs like Parker.
Second, Parker likes Spurs.
I could be crazy but I find it's a great basis to talk about a new contract. I can see Spurs waiting a little to see if Parker is healthy but I don't see why Spurs wouldn't be fine with giving him a fair contract.
IMO, Parker's market value would be between $65M/5 years and $75M/5 years.
I think something has been lost in the communication as I'll try to demonstrate.
I agree. Eventually Tony will sign a new deal that will represent fair market value at the time it is signed.
I agree. The mutual affection is clear and undeniable.
I agree. The Spurs will be interested in keeping Tony at a fair price.
5/65 and 4/50 are the numbers I had in mind as fair value for Tony and about the upper limit of what the Spurs will offer before knowing the parameters of the new CBA. Let's use 5/70 from this point forward.
So, I completely agree with your assessment up to this point. Where do we appear to diverge?
You appear to believe, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that Tony would sign a 5/70 extension. I don't see that as likely at all. 5/70 means a salary in 2011-12 that is approximately 2M less than his 2010-11 salary. He wouldn't exceed his 2010-11 salary until the 3rd year of the extension.
I'm convinced that Tony will take his chances in free agency before he accepts a deal that starts with a 2M pay cut. I would hope for a different result, but I can't see one.
I certainly don't think it is strange to believe it unlikely that Tony will accept a pay cut as the starting point for an extension. He may very well have to accept that fact in free agency. Perhaps he will accept that fact in an extension. That would, however, prove my point that a deal is only possible at a level substantially below the max possible deal.
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