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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Army missed its goals for signing up recruits in April and expects to do so again in May, and the Marines also fell short, officials said on Monday, as the Iraq war further strained the all-volunteer U.S. military.

    The Army and Marines provide the ground forces fighting rebels in the two-year-old Iraq war that has killed nearly 1,600 U.S. troops. At least 51 American troops died in April.

    The active-duty Army missed its April recruiting goal and was 15 percent behind its year-to-date target, officials said. An internal forecast indicated the active-duty Army and part-time Army Reserve and Army National Guard also will miss their May goals.

    The active-duty Army, striving to attract 80,000 recruits in the 2005 fiscal year that ends Sept. 30, has now missed its recruiting targets for three straight months.
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    Well, you know where this is going...

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    Dan, why are you so concerned over the possibility of a draft? Are you going to be one of the people drafted?

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    this is why i'm not registered to vote my friends

    lol
    Dude, they'll find you. This isn't ing jury duty. If you have a driver's license, they even know where you live.

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    About the only reason I can think of for being glad Republicans are in power... we don't have to worry about a draft.

    In other news, my Alma Mater missed its fundraising goal for the trimester.

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    I don't understand this.

    I saw a bumper sticker the other day that read "My Son served in Iraq so your's could party in college".

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    this is why i'm not registered to vote my friends

    lol
    everyday you say something that totally shows you don't know ...

    at least the i get blasted for is me being accused of not caring, of being an asshole, etc...

    and you're safe regardless.. there will not be a draft...

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    ..there will not be a draft...
    Maybe if you click your heels three times while you say this it will come true.

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    Maybe if you click your heels three times while you say this it will come true.
    how many years have you said, "next year" there will be a draft?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    I've always said in the last summer, early winter period of 2005. I stand pat.

    How desperate are some recuiters becoming?

    Army Recruiters Say They Feel Pressure to Bend Rules
    By DAMIEN CAVE

    Published: May 3, 2005

    It was late September when the 21-year-old man, fresh from a three-week commitment in a psychiatric ward, showed up at an Army recruiting station in southern Ohio. The two recruiters there wasted no time signing him up, and even after the man's parents told them he had bipolar disorder - a diagnosis that would disqualify him - he was all set to be shipped to boot camp, and perhaps Iraq after that, before senior officers found out and canceled the enlistment.

    Despite an Army investigation, the recruiters were not punished and were still working in the area late last month.

    ...Recruiters and some senior Army officials, however, said that for every impropriety that is found, at least two more are never discovered. And the Army's figures show that it is not punishing serious offenses as it once did. In 2002, roughly 5 of every 10 recruiters who were found to have committed improprieties intentionally or through gross negligence were relieved of duty; last year, that number slipped to 3 in 10.

    General Roc e said that decline could be explained, in part, by his decision two years ago to end a policy that nearly always dismissed serious offenders from recruiting.........(more stories)
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    It seems there are no rules for recruiters today. Maybe they'll let recruiters work welfare offices, halfway houses, and prisons to meet their numbers?

    If not, be careful walking in a dark alley alone...

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    I've always said in the last summer, early winter period of 2005. I stand pat.

    How desperate are some recuiters becoming?



    Yahoo News

    It seems there are no rules for recruiters today. Maybe they'll let recruiters work welfare offices, halfway houses, and prisons to meet their numbers?

    If not, be careful walking in a dark alley alone...
    if you truly believe all your drivel you need some psychiatric help.

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    They're coming to get us. Oh no.

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    They're coming to get us. Oh no.
    seriously...what is that brick all about?

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    that story sure is sensationalized. Recruiters sign up anyone they kind, whether they can cut it at MEPS or not.

    There won't be a draft, the Republican party isn't going to commit political suicide so some asshat on Spurstalk looks like he knows what he's talking about.

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    BTW, you cry about a draft, but your boy Kerry wanted to have a draft for all 18 year olds - putting them into national service obligations.

    Whee bit hypocritical, don't you think?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    BTW, you cry about a draft, but your boy Kerry wanted to have a draft for all 18 year olds - putting them into national service obligations.


    Two years of domestic service to help pay for college is not active combat duty in Iraq.

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    Two years of domestic service to help pay for college is not active combat duty in Iraq.
    and joining the military doesn't mean active combat soldier either... a very small percentage actually ever sees combat.

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    You know, I saw the subject line to the thread and the first thing that popped into my mind is, "so long as they don't miss their targets."

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    I'm guilty of not wanting to see my grandsons join the military, however if they decided to enlist I'd be mighty proud.

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    I'm guilty of not wanting to see my grandsons join the military, however if they decided to enlist I'd be mighty proud.
    I'm with you on that one McBragg.

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    I'm with you on that one McBragg.
    Why would you not want your grandchildren to join the military tro?

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    Why would you not want your grandchildren to join the military tro?
    It's a thankless job, with little pay, and even less respect from about half of the nation they'd be sworn to protect and defend.

    That's why.

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    I think recruiting goals will be met. I also think they'll rebound when the U.S. Supreme Court overturns that ridiculous ruling by the 3rd Circuit that upheld the prohibition of ROTC and recruiting on college campuses -- without losing federal funding.

    A big part of the recruiting problem lies in the concerted efforts of the anti-American crowd on the Left actively seeking to re recruitment efforts. The college campus issue is just one example.

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    It's a thankless job, with little pay, and even less respect from about half of the nation they'd be sworn to protect and defend.
    Amen to that, God Bles all those who have signed up & served & most of all those who have paid the ultimate price.
    So many punk ass kids don't have the balls or the heart to sign up for any combat related field. That bumper sticker post is so sickening. Service to your country should be MANDATORY for at least 2 yrs & even more if you don't serve in the armed forces. The benefits to those who do serve should definitely be increased.

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    It's a thankless job, with little pay, and even less respect from about half of the nation they'd be sworn to protect and defend.

    That's why.
    Right On! Self-esteem is everything.

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    Right On! Self-esteem is everything.
    I'm assuming that was tongue-in-cheek. You may have missed the point of my post which was that I'd be proud if they enlisted. I never said or implied I would try and talk them out of it. I never said or implied I would denegrate military service.

    All I said is that I would hope for more for my grandchildren than to be the lightning rod of anti-American agenda for little pay and security....that's all.

    It had nothing to do with self esteem.

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