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If Tim wants to rebuild, then rebuild. If he wants one more year, then one more year.
The decision of this team should come down to him, not to Pop or the front office.
Let's face reality here...Tim Duncan is done. He's done. He had played like 18 minutes before the beginning of the 4th and could not carry the team past the Nets. The night before he only played 26 minutes.
What's the point in trying again? I've said this before but it's looking more and more like a reality...the Spurs are dangerously close to becoming the early 2000's Utah Jazz. They should let Manu go and trade RJ for straight expirings. I don't even care if they get a decent draft pick in return. They should probably think about getting whatever value they can get for Parker also. I'm not sure what they do with Duncan. They should not trade him, but perhaps sitting down with him and discussing a plan for rebuilding might be a good idea. I doubt he would want to stay around if the Spurs weren't going to be compe ive, so maybe they could work out a buyout for him so he could retire.
If Tim wants to rebuild, then rebuild. If he wants one more year, then one more year.
The decision of this team should come down to him, not to Pop or the front office.
No, they owe it to Duncan to try one last time next season. The man gave back significant money so that they would do that and he's won them four championships. After that, with the lockout likely to come, it'll probably eat up part of, if not all of, his final season on his contract, then he'll likely retire and the Spurs will be forced into re-building. So it's not like they have to hold out for another three years.
Would you be writing this had the spurs won tonight?
This place overreacts with every win and loss.
remember before the season when duncan was suppose to be the 4th option on offense this year?
thats where we got screwed... he was the 1st option for the first half of the year and the 2nd option ever since "old manu" felt like playing.
He did...but that doesn't change the fact that he lost weight and came into the season in tremendous shape yet he still does not have enough gas in the tank to get through the season.
I think trying again is just going through the motions. Re-signing Manu and bringing in Splitter is not going to be enough. It will be the big three with a first year big, a second year big, a washed up McDyess, Matt Bonner, one solid wing player and a bunch of young players and washed up vet minimum players. Without a dominant Timmy, it's simply not enough.
Honestly if Tony and Manu can just rest this summer along with Tim, this team can be so much better next season.
We know the potential they have if everyone can stay healthy. If we're gonna try one le run I would bring everyone back but Bogans Mason and McDyess.
If Pop's plan next season is to re-sign and use Matt Bonner for almost 30 minutes a game, continue using Bogans as a 'centerpiece', and then proceed to around all year long with trying to find the next D league bargain basement player (*cough* Garrett) then yah for everyone's sake (esp Manu and Tim) its time to blow it up to ease the inevitable suffering that's guaranteed to be coming.
They already tried reloading on the fly. It didn't work. The FO simply made the wrong choices in players. If they wanted to reload again, they should've done so at the tread deadline, when they could've burned Bonner, Mason and Finley's contracts for the likes of Tyrus Thomas and John Salmons. Some fresh productive blood that would've helped them through the stretch run and improved the overall talent level of the roster heading into the postseason and next year.
Now, I believe they should simply rebuild. Besides if Manu bolts during the summer, the FO will not have any choice. They'll be rebuilding whether they or Duncan like it or not.
I've been thinking about this for a while now...and it's only been confirmed in watching this back to back. The Spurs have had a good month all things considered, but Duncan has only scored over 20 twice and has only had THREE double digit rebounding games. Instead of strengthening he is declining quickly. Believe me, I want him to prove me wrong...but I just don't see it happening.
Rebuild.
For nothing?They should let Manu go
RJ is a straight expiring. RJ should be traded to a team desperate for capspace who would be willing to give up good picks or promising young players.and trade RJ for straight expirings. I don't even care if they get a decent draft pick in return.
I agree with you, don't get me wrong. I have no such illusions about this team winning one last championship in the Duncan era, but this is a league without a great team right now and the closest thing to do it could (though I don't think they will) lose their best player this off season, so it's not out of the question that the Spurs could be in the mix next season. Like I said, if they're not, then the re-build will start anyway, so why not give it one last shot? They'll be plenty of time to attempt to rebuild the team after next season and let's face it, it'll takes years just to get it back to this point.
If Splitter comes over, McDyess is gone. They're not paying him over $4 million to be the fourth big, plus it would leave them without a stretch four, something they're obsessed with having.
Dont get why everyone seems so eager to rip this team apart, the lottery is gonna be there waiting for us when this core is gone anways. We shouldn't be reloading yeh, but no way we just blow this team up. Parker lost an entire season to injuries, it took Manu half the season to get back into game form, and Tim had to carry way to much load for way to much time. We gotta give it one more shot even if nothing good happens in the PO this years. We sign Manu to an extention and just cross our fingers that TP and him are gonna be healthy next year...
It al comes down to Duncan and to some Point to Jefferson. If the think they are due 40 millions for 2 years (Duncan) and 15 for 1 (Jefferson) then we are done and Manu will be likely gone.
If they think they need to give up some money to have a chance to win, then we might try for 2 more years.
And the FO needs to stop putting their heads in the sand and cover some of the various mistakes they did the last 3 years.
(Ginobili, Scola, McDyess, Jefferson... etc)
They were right with Hill, and lucky with Blair... thatīs all theyīve done.
There is a point. But Tim needs to play 20 or less minutes a night for the first half of the season. It really boils down to that. This is something I thought the coaching staff would do this season, but for a number of reasons it didn't happen. Hopefully we'll rid ourselves of a lot of dead weight too (Bonner, Mason and Bogans) and we can get a few compe ive guys that fill out those spots.
As far as this season, as soon as we lock that 8th seed, I would sit TD ASAP until the playoffs start. Give those knees some rest.
If Tim hadn't played so hard the first half of this season, can you imagine what our record would look like. We wouldn't make the 8th seed, that's for sure. Bogans and Dice played horrible tonight. I was pretty optimistic after the win last night...how quickly things can change.
A lot here say that Manu is worth less than what he is being payed because he plays half a season. So Duncan must receive the same treatment.
Posters here need to be a little more consistent on what they think about players, merits and paycheck.
I think Duncan should be playing well tonight, because we needed a win, yet he played as if he didnīt care much. And donīt tell me the "itīs tired" i am 100% sure that Duncan wonīt be tired in the PO.
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rest of team is expendable...rebuild for the future
Not sure about TD. He could conceivable digress to an imposter of his former self.
His last two seasons could get oogly.
let's see how he does come playoffs. historically Duncan has stepped up to a whole other level in the playoffs. they'll need him, that's for sure. if he can't score at a 50% clip in the playoffs, then we can honestly say he's done.
i don' thiink he's playing for seeds right now. he's aware of the fact that no matter what seed they get right they're going to have to play LA. he might just be trying to rest his body.
i'm not going to give up on the guy, though, no matter what. not before the playoffs. i think people are jumping the gun. last year, against Dallas, it was pretty much the same story, then he exploded in that series. so i'm going to stick with history and hope it sticks.
i can see TD renegotiating his contract, though. it depends on how much emphasis he will put on going out with a champioship. it's clear they need to bring in somebody - a big - that can score and be a defense presense. Dice isn't a good enough defensive player to really relieve and help Duncan. Tiago Splitter is a guy that could change this team.
i'm not saying TD isn't worth his money, guys. dude has accomplished a lot and done a lot for this franchise. when you look at other players in this league and what they get paid, and then compare it to what they've actually accomplished, it's laughable, and in that respect he is worth it and earned his paycheck.
but it's very likely the Spurs won't win a thing with him making what he's making the next two years. they need an addition to this team and the team is already way over the cap.
Why on earth would you get rid of parker though? He's literally a one man wrecking crew for the spurs, he doesn't NEED anybody else on the team to function properly in his scoring in the paint/scoring in fast break-role.
bosh next year
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